Universe Expansion: Is There a Cycle?

In summary, the conversation discusses the expansion of the universe and the possibility of it eventually slowing down and reversing due to gravitational attraction between objects. However, recent data suggests that the expansion is actually accelerating, which is attributed to the mysterious "dark energy". This energy is thought to have negative mass and repels ordinary matter, causing the universe to continue expanding. While this may seem illogical, it is supported by observations and has been the subject of much research and speculation.
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hey , i was wondering if this would be true :

at school we often tell us that the universe is in a constant expansion , that gravity only works on small scale distances, that most objects have a powerful cinetic energy that make them expand

But now, even if the gravitational attraction between all the universes objects is fairly weak (big distances), it should still slowly decrease the universes expansion by decreasing the objects cinetic energy ?
meaning that there will be a time T where most of the universes object will stop expanding ?
And then most of this object will gain cinetic energy , but on the other direction (gravity), meaning that all of these objects would move back to reunite. and so it will form a very small , very dense object , and then re-explode like the bing bang , to start another cycle ?

like if an universes has a cycle of : expanding , reuniting, and exploding

Because to me that sounds more logic, than saying that it will expand to infinity.
Because we would have to consider how come so much particules reunited itself in a small volume to then explose (big bang) ?
 
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There are 3 possibilities depending upon whether the mass in the universe is critical, less than critical or more than critical. But these 3 possibilites are themselves based upon Friedmann models and the Robertson-Walker metric, which may not represent the real universe. In arriving at these models, certain assumptions are made, for example ,that the mass of the universe is fixed at the time of its genesis, and that the velocity of light is constant in all eras - so unless all the assumed factors are actually true, our models are flawed and in the last analysis we cannot predict the ultimate fate of the universe.

In recent years, new data has cast doubt on all previous models because the universe appears to be accelerating. You are however, safe to bet on any outcome; it is doubtful whether anyone will be around at the end to ask you to pay-up
 
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the universe accelerating ? with what force ?
is it that it appears to be that most objects are charged with the same charge, so the electromagnetic force countering the gravitational force ?
or with some other massic objects around our universe ?
 
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JPC said:
the universe accelerating ? with what force ?
is it that it appears to be that most objects are charged with the same charge, so the electromagnetic force countering the gravitational force ?
or with some other massic objects around our universe ?

The object attributed to explaining the acceleration of the universe is the mysterious "dark energy." There are various theories as to what it is, but in reality, cosmologists do not really know. Here's a link to a few NASA articles on dark energy:

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/mysteries_l1/dark_energy.html
http://science.hq.nasa.gov/universe/science/dark_energy.html
 
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ok so from what i understood of these articles :

Dark Energy : energy in space, constantly changes from matter to energy ( a bit like matter and anti-matter clashing to form energy, and latter this energy reforms matter) .
And that this matter has negative mass, which to me would mean negative energy ! ??
Which would repell ordinary matter away, making the universe expand. IF this it true, would it mean that this Dark energy is more in the middle than in the surface ? because if it was in the surface , it would make all the universes objects come together ?
 
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Same space, different time?

Knowing matter cannot occupy the same space at the same time, does the Earth (or any amount of matter) ever occupy the same space at different times? Do we ever occupy the same spatial position in the universe?
 
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JPC said:
hey , i was wondering if this would be true :

at school we often tell us that the universe is in a constant expansion , that gravity only works on small scale distances, that most objects have a powerful cinetic energy that make them expand

But now, even if the gravitational attraction between all the universes objects is fairly weak (big distances), it should still slowly decrease the universes expansion by decreasing the objects cinetic energy ?

The correct spelling is kinetic energy.

meaning that there will be a time T where most of the universes object will stop expanding ?
And then most of this object will gain cinetic energy , but on the other direction (gravity), meaning that all of these objects would move back to reunite. and so it will form a very small , very dense object , and then re-explode like the bing bang , to start another cycle ?

like if an universes has a cycle of : expanding , reuniting, and exploding

Because to me that sounds more logic, than saying that it will expand to infinity.
Because we would have to consider how come so much particules reunited itself in a small volume to then explose (big bang) ?

It may seem more logical that the universe should work in the way you describe, but recent measurements have shown that the acceleration of the universe is not 'slowing down', as you argue it should, but actually accelerating.

This requires something very weird - as you point out, gravity attracts, and we would expect the expansion to deaccelerate. (It's not really quite that simple, but we'll skip over the more complex analysis - the conclusion you come to is basically right)

This very strange thing that causes the universe's expansion to accelerate has not been directly observed, but has been given the name "dark energy".

You might want to read some popular articles about it, for instance http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/19419

There are other comments one could make, but "dark energy" is probably the biggest difference between how you think the universe should work and how we've observed that the universe actually appears to work (at least, as nearly as we can tell).
 

1. What evidence do we have for the expansion of the universe?

One of the key pieces of evidence for the expansion of the universe is the observation of redshift in the light from distant galaxies. This phenomenon occurs when the wavelength of light is stretched as it travels through expanding space. Additionally, the cosmic microwave background radiation, leftover from the early universe, shows a pattern of slight variations in temperature that support the idea of an expanding universe.

2. Is the expansion of the universe continuous or does it happen in cycles?

Currently, the most widely accepted theory is that the expansion of the universe is continuous and will continue indefinitely. However, some theories propose the idea of a cyclic universe, where expansion is followed by contraction and a new cycle begins. This idea is still being explored and remains a topic of debate in the scientific community.

3. What is dark energy and how does it relate to the expansion of the universe?

Dark energy is a hypothetical form of energy that is thought to make up about 70% of the universe. It is believed to be responsible for the acceleration of the expansion of the universe. However, its exact nature is still unknown and is a subject of ongoing research.

4. Can we predict when the expansion of the universe will end?

Based on current observations and theories, it is not possible to predict when the expansion of the universe will end. It is possible that it will continue forever, or it may eventually slow down or even reverse due to the effects of dark energy. However, further research and observations are needed to better understand the long-term fate of the universe.

5. How does the concept of universe expansion tie into the Big Bang theory?

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing explanation for the origins of the universe. It suggests that the universe began as a singularity and has been expanding ever since. The concept of universe expansion is a key component of the Big Bang theory and is supported by numerous scientific observations and experiments.

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