What is the Solution to the One-Dimensional Particle in an Energy Well Problem?

Edit: no, I am not sure, since the Hamiltonian is not dependent on x, but it is on the Schrödinger EquationIn summary, the conversation discusses the solution to a problem involving a particle confined in a one-dimensional box. The solutions to the stationary Schrödinger equation and the corresponding energy eigenvalues are determined and normalized. The complete time-dependent wave function for the nth stationary state is written down and the Heisenberg Uncertainty relation is discussed. The conversation also explores the Hamiltonian operator and its relationship to the energy eigenvalue.
  • #36
Okay, so:

[tex] A^2\int{sin^2(\frac{n\pi}{L}x)dx = 1 [/tex]

Using:

[tex] sin^2 (kx) = \frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos(kx)}{2} [/tex]

Gives:

[tex] A^2\int{\frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos(kx)}{2}}dx = 1 [/tex]

[tex] A^2[{\frac{x}{2} - \frac{k}{2} sin(kx)}]^L_0 = 1 [/tex]

[tex] A^2[{\frac{L}{2} - \frac{k}{2} sin(kL)}] = 1 [/tex]

[tex] k = n\pi/L [/tex]

[tex] A^2[{\frac{L}{2} - \frac{n\pi}{2} sin(n\pi)}] = 1 [/tex]

sin of n*pi = 0

[tex] A^2[{\frac{L}{2}] = 1 [/tex]

[tex] A^2{\frac{L}{2} = 1 [/tex]

[tex] A^2 = {\frac{2}{L} [/tex]

gives A to be:

[tex] A = \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} [/tex]

Is this better now?
 
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  • #37
OKay, I have looked in the book and it does appear to be the right answer - should I have done this part in the previous section?

So: [tex] \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

Okay, so now:

[tex] \left\langle \hat{p} \right\rangle = \int\phi^*\hat{p}\phi [/tex]

since we have found that phi* = phi, I assume:

[tex] \left\langle \hat{p} \right\rangle = \int^L_0\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x) (-i\hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x)dx [/tex]

and thus:

[tex] \left\langle \hat{p} \right\rangle = \int^L_0\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x) (-i\hbar \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}\frac{\partial}{\partial x}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x)dx [/tex]

and:

[tex] \left\langle \hat{p} \right\rangle = \int^L_0\sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x) (-i\hbar \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}}\frac{n\pi}{L} cos(\frac{n\pi}{L}x)dx [/tex]

Rearrange:

[tex] =-\frac{2n\pi}{L^2}\int^L_0 sin(\frac{n\pi}{L}x)(cos(\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

Does this look okay so far?
 
  • #38
Okay, I am not sure for the p-hat one I just did, but I have done the x ones, and I have got:

[tex] <\hat{x}> = \phi^*x\phi [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 sin (\frac{n\pi}{L}x)xsin (\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 x sin^2 (\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

using the substituion for sin^2:

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 \frac{x}{2} x\frac{cos(2kx){2} [/tex]

using the product rule, I get:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{xksin(2kx)}{2} + \frac{x^2}{2}\frac{cos2kx}{2}] [/tex]

insert values:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L ksin(2kL)}{2} + \frac{L^2}{2}\frac{cos2kL}{2}] [/tex]

insert k:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L \frac{n\pi}{L}sin(2\frac{n\pi}{L}L)}{2} + \frac{L^2}{2}\frac{cos2\frac{n\pi}{L}L}{2}] [/tex]

Cancel down:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{n\pi sin(2n\pi)}{2} + \frac{L^2}{2}\frac{cos2n\pi}{2}] [/tex]

Since sin n*pi = 0, cos npi = 1:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L^2}{2}\frac{1}{2}] [/tex]

and:

[tex] \frac{2L^2}{2L}\frac{1}{2} [/tex]

Giving:

[tex] <\hat{x}> = \frac{L}{2} [/tex]

And, similarly for <x^2>

[tex] <\hat{x}> = \phi^*x^2\phi [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 sin (\frac{n\pi}{L}x)x^2 sin (\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 x^2 sin^2 (\frac{n\pi}{L}x) [/tex]

using the substituion for sin^2:

[tex] = \frac{2}{L}\int^L_0 \frac{x^2}{2} x^2\frac{cos(2kx){2} [/tex]

using the product rule, I get:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{x^2ksin(2kx)}{2} - \frac{x^3}{6}\frac{cos2kx}{2}] [/tex]

inserting the values for k and x:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L^2ksin(2kL)}{2} - \frac{L^3}{6}\frac{cos2kL}{2}] [/tex]

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L^2\frac{n\pi}{L}sin(2\frac{n\pi}{L}L)}{2} - \frac{L^3}{6}\frac{cos2\frac{n\pi}{L}L}{2}] [/tex]

Cancel down:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[\frac{L n\pi sin(2n\pi}{2} - \frac{L^3}{6}\frac{cos2n\pi}{2}] [/tex]

Using same cos and sin rules:

[tex] \frac{2}{L}[- \frac{L^3}{6}\frac{1}{2}] [/tex]

[tex] -\frac{L^2}{6} [/tex]

Thus:

[tex] \Delta \hat{x} = \sqrt{<\hat{x^2}> - <\hat{x}>^2} [/tex]

and:

[tex] \Delta \hat{x} = \sqrt{<-\frac{L^2}{6}> - <{\frac{L^2}{4}}>^2} [/tex]

[tex] \Delta \hat{x} = \sqrt{<-\frac{L^2}{6}> - <{\frac{L^2}{4}}>^2} [/tex]

Does this look okay?
 
  • #39
For <p> you've got the right general form, but I'm wondering about some of the constants (not that they'll matter in the end). <x> the answer came out ok, the stuff in between doesn't look completely ok. <x^2> CAN'T be negative. Why not? Think about it.
 
  • #40
Okay,

<x^2> can't be negatvive because it is squared,;

I was writing the working out down to hand in, but I didn't use copy from my notes, and it looked slightly better, but it gave me:

<x> = L

<x^2> = 2/3 L^2

trouble is when working out the Delta:

[tex] \Delta\hat{x} = \sqrt{<\hat^2> - <\hat>^2} [/tex]

trouble is I get a negative equation under the sqare root, which I know shouldn't be...?
 
  • #41
If you get a negative under the square root, then you made a mistake. I don't get <x>=L, I get <x>=L/2. <x^2> doesn't seem to come out as 2L^2/3 either. These are just integration problems now, not QM. So it doesn't take any deep thinking. You just have to do the integrations carefully.
 

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