Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options

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In summary, Huygens has landed on the surface of Titan and first data should be received this afternoon. It is a moon at the right distance from Saturn for life to form, but there is a chance of nearby liquid. Equipment failure is always a good bet, but fortunately it did not happen in this case.
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Bets for Friday?

Solid planetfall?
Liquid planetfall?
Equipment failure?
 
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solid.
some.
 
  • #3
Solid, no lakes near landing site.
 
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Lakes of water emitting methane gas due to rotting vegitation. Volcanic mountains sticking out of the water with algae growth all over them. Tidal forces causing all of this. It is a moon at the right distance from Saturn for life to form. :uhh:
 
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Likely solid, but still some chance of nearby liquid. Either way, it will be cool.
Please, please no equipment failure! This opportunity won't come again for a long time.
 
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Equipment failure is always a good bet.
 
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Goop, slush, Titanic ooze-quicksand, ... a hint of a small rise (solid?) in the distance; no liquid.
 
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Solid.

Will stop transmitting successfully two minutes before the calculated moment of contact with said solid surface.
 
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Huygens has landed!
First data should be received this afternoon!
 
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I won, unfortunately :-(

Rocks, no lakes near landing site.
 
  • #11
Cool. I just saw the first image [view from 10 miles above Titan]. Looks like the amazon river delta emptying into the Atlantic ocean.
 
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Check here, raw images:

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/%7Ekholso/data.htm
 
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what the hell.. no little green men?!
 
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So are there indeed ethane oceans down there?
 
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s3nn0c said:
Check here, raw images:

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/%7Ekholso/data.htm

All the pictures are dead links now :cry:
 
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Too early to say.
 
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Oh, damn, really, links are dead... Give me an FTP, I can upload them. 518 KB needed.
 
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s3nn0c said:
Oh, damn, really, links are dead... Give me an FTP, I can upload them. 518 KB needed.

can u just upload them to www.imageshack.us ?
it's free and really easy
 
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Chronos said:

The esa site only has 3 pictures up. There were links to about a dozen images on the other site...

check want pictures now! :tongue2:
 
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Is it just me or do some of the 'rocks' in that surface photo appear to be submerged in a shallow pool?
 
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Thx for link, check.

http://img40.exs.cx/img40/3086/landing01h5rp.jpg
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/981/landing02h7co.jpg
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/7760/landing03h6jt.jpg
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/1218/triplet24rs.jpg
http://img21.exs.cx/img21/1629/triplet134xu.jpg
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http://img21.exs.cx/img21/4258/triplet781jr.jpg
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/3456/triplet894lo.jpg
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/4882/triplet1840xs.jpg
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/1351/triplet1945gn.jpg
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/6581/triplet2533ud.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4220/triplet2756ux.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4315/triplet4368tc.jpg
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http://img116.exs.cx/img116/313/triplet6713hr.jpg
http://img116.exs.cx/img116/6099/triplet9125fn.jpg

"Special" thanks for ESA... Sorry, guys, our european scientists definitely don't know how to use popular media.
 
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so uhm.. party on Titan?
 
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It seems Huygens made it all the way to the surface without failing. I am happy to be wrong in my prediction.
 
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I'm happy too. I'm a little dissapointed one of the channels failed so they only got back 350 pictures instead of the 700 or so they were expecting. Oh well... that's still awesome.
 
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actually i heard they foobared that whole thing with frequency because some engineer put wrong frequency in there and they had to adjust for it by changing the speed of descent? what was the story with that
 
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They got all the pictures back they just are not telling us.They have numerous back up channels built in just in case they lose one. Liars!
 
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Still don't understand how why they couldn't put color cameras on the probe.

Anyways, I'm a little disapointed with the results, don't know why. Surface pictures look exactly like Mars and Venus. Except for that picture it took during the decent that looked cool. Hopefully the chemical anaylsis stuff will be more interesting.
 
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cronxeh said:
actually i heard they foobared that whole thing with frequency because some engineer put wrong frequency in there and they had to adjust for it by changing the speed of descent? what was the story with that

No no, the firmware on Cassini was not adjusted to deal with the Doppler shift due to the velocity difference between Huygens and Cassini. The software was, but the firmware wasn't. So the engineers got by adjusting Cassinis velocity/heading and by changing when Hugens undocked from Cassini.

But why Channel A failed is still being worked on.
 
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Entropy said:
Still don't understand how why they couldn't put color cameras on the probe.

Anyways, I'm a little disapointed with the results, don't know why. Surface pictures look exactly like Mars and Venus. Except for that picture it took during the decent that looked cool. Hopefully the chemical anaylsis stuff will be more interesting.

It might interest you to know that they don't have colour cameras on the Mars Rovers either...
They have black and white cameras with filters for different wavelengths on them that they later combine to form near true colour images.

I'm not sure if Hugens has these filters or not.. probably not though.
 
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It might interest you to know that they don't have colour cameras on the Mars Rovers either...

Last time I looked at a Mars photo I saw red soil, brown rocks, a blue sky with a yellow sun rising.

I just wanted to see a good color photo of what's below all that yellow hase. I'm just shocked that we can sent a hunk of metal half a billion miles into space and land it on a tiny chunk of rock spinning around the sun at several thousand miles per hour and not seem to be able to stick a color camera. They can put a color camera on my sister's phone that can save 5 minute of film but the ESA can't put a color camera on a space probe?! We had color cameras when we landed on the moon for crying out loud!
 
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We had color cameras in the 1950's for cryin out loud. I get better pictures at Wal Mart for cryin out loud. I agree with you.
 
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Entropy said:
Last time I looked at a Mars photo I saw red soil, brown rocks, a blue sky with a yellow sun rising.

I just wanted to see a good color photo of what's below all that yellow hase. I'm just shocked that we can sent a hunk of metal half a billion miles into space and land it on a tiny chunk of rock spinning around the sun at several thousand miles per hour and not seem to be able to stick a color camera. They can put a color camera on my sister's phone that can save 5 minute of film but the ESA can't put a color camera on a space probe?! We had color cameras when we landed on the moon for crying out loud!

Dude, did you read the rest of my post about how they take colour pictures on Mars?

Anyway, the Colour pictures from the moon were from film cameras that the astronauts used. I'm pretty sure all the other landers on the moon before were all black and white and if there were any colour images it was because of filters. I think the reason lies in the fact that you can get much more valuable scientific data if you filter out certian wavelengths... Also, it's much easier to compress greyscale images (and cheaper/lighter to built b/w cameras).

Any space engineers want to back me up?
 
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errorist said:
We had color cameras in the 1950's for cryin out loud. I get better pictures at Wal Mart for cryin out loud. I agree with you.

You want to send 700 5-megapixal full coloured uncompressed images over an antenna about as powerful as a cell phone to an orbiting satellite several thousand kilometers away and then transmit that back to Earth 1.2 billion km away in a mission designed to last for 3 hours?

BTW, these first images are the raw, unprocessed low res images. There are higher resolutions pictures that will probably be put up later.
 
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<H2>1. What is the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?</H2><p>The Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options is a betting system created by the Huygens Institute for the purpose of predicting the outcome of various events or activities that will take place on a Friday.</p><H2>2. How does the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options work?</H2><p>The Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options works by allowing individuals to place bets on the outcome of various events or activities that will take place on a Friday. Participants can choose from a list of options and place their bets accordingly. The winner is determined based on the actual outcome of the event or activity.</p><H2>3. Is the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options scientifically accurate?</H2><p>No, the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options is not scientifically accurate. It is simply a fun betting system created for entertainment purposes and should not be taken as a serious scientific tool.</p><H2>4. Can anyone participate in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?</H2><p>Yes, anyone can participate in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options as long as they are of legal age and follow the rules and regulations set by the Huygens Institute. It is open to both individuals and groups.</p><H2>5. Are there any risks involved in participating in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?</H2><p>Yes, there are risks involved in participating in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options, just like with any form of gambling. Participants should be aware of these risks and only bet within their means. The Huygens Institute does not take any responsibility for any losses incurred through participation in the betting system.</p>

1. What is the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?

The Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options is a betting system created by the Huygens Institute for the purpose of predicting the outcome of various events or activities that will take place on a Friday.

2. How does the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options work?

The Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options works by allowing individuals to place bets on the outcome of various events or activities that will take place on a Friday. Participants can choose from a list of options and place their bets accordingly. The winner is determined based on the actual outcome of the event or activity.

3. Is the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options scientifically accurate?

No, the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options is not scientifically accurate. It is simply a fun betting system created for entertainment purposes and should not be taken as a serious scientific tool.

4. Can anyone participate in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?

Yes, anyone can participate in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options as long as they are of legal age and follow the rules and regulations set by the Huygens Institute. It is open to both individuals and groups.

5. Are there any risks involved in participating in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options?

Yes, there are risks involved in participating in the Huygens Office Pool Bets: Friday's Options, just like with any form of gambling. Participants should be aware of these risks and only bet within their means. The Huygens Institute does not take any responsibility for any losses incurred through participation in the betting system.

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