A question about plank constant

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In summary, the Planck constant, 6.62 E-34, is a small number that comes from a fit constant to the blackbody radiation spectrum. It is dimensionful and not of order unity, and relates Length, Time, and Mass. Relations between the units were found and the constants hbar, c, and G get dimensions as a result.
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A young student asks me "why mr. Max Planck could find out the Planck constant. How come he could find such a small number (the Planck constant ~ 6.62 E-34). Anyone could help me to explain to the boy?
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Plancks constant originally came about as a numerical approximation to a fit constant. Planck was trying to explain the blackbody radiation spectrum. Using normal Boltzmann statistics to try and explain the distribution of energy, he made the postulate that the energy could only come in discrete packets of energy proportional to [tex]h\nu[/tex] where [tex]\nu[/tex] was the frequency of the electromagnetic radiation and h was some constant scaling factor. So to make a long story short, he was left with a distribution of the form
[tex]
I(\nu,T)=\frac{2h\nu^3}{c^2}\frac{1}{e^{\frac{h\nu}{kT}}-1}
[/tex]

Where everything was known except the constant h. By what essentially amounted to a series of least squares fitting, he was able to find the constant h that worked for all distributions at various temperatures T.
 
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He fitted his experssion to experimental data, specifically data showing the frequency distribution of blackbody radiation from a source with a known temperature.

The fact that the constant is "small" doesn't matter when it comes to fitting data.

Edit: Keniwas was faster...
 
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f95toli said:
He fitted his experssion to experimental data, specifically data showing the frequency distribution of blackbody radiation from a source with a known temperature.

The fact that the constant is "small" doesn't matter when it comes to fitting data.

Edit: Keniwas was faster...

;) but now we have two posts that agree so it gives support that the answer is indeed correct.
 
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The numerical value of h depends on units, so it may be made unity in the Plank or other units.
 
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The fact that Planck's constant is dimensionful and the fact that it is not of order unity when expressed in the everyday units, are linked.

It turns out that that Length, Time, and Mass are not independent but that they are related. But these relationships are effectively invisible to classical physicists. The classical physicists thought that you could never compare a length to a time interval and a mass to a length or a time interval, i.e. that the units for mass, time and length must be fundamentally incompatible. That's why these units were assigned incompatible dimensions.

This later turned out to be wrong. Relations between the units were found. Because we decided not to correct our error and keep the incompatible dimensions for the units, the constants hbar, c, and G that relate the units get dimensions.
 
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Thanks to all for explanation.
 

1. What is the Plank constant?

The Plank constant, denoted by the symbol h, is a fundamental constant in quantum mechanics that relates the energy of a photon to its frequency. It is named after German physicist Max Planck, who first introduced it in 1900.

2. What is the significance of the Plank constant?

The Plank constant is significant because it helps us understand the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic level. It is also used in various equations in quantum mechanics, such as the Schrödinger equation and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

3. How is the Plank constant measured?

The Plank constant is measured using various experimental techniques, such as the photoelectric effect and blackbody radiation. The most accurate measurement of h was achieved by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) using a device called the Kibble balance.

4. Has the value of the Plank constant changed over time?

No, the value of the Plank constant has not changed over time. It is considered to be a fundamental constant of nature and its value is the same everywhere in the universe.

5. How does the Plank constant relate to quantum mechanics?

The Plank constant is a crucial component of quantum mechanics. It is used to describe the behavior of particles at the atomic and subatomic level and is necessary for understanding phenomena such as wave-particle duality and the quantization of energy levels.

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