Find the period of Cosine of Quadratic function

In summary, the conversation discusses whether the function y2 = cos(y1) is periodic with respect to x, given that y1 = ax^2 + b and a and b are constants. The group discusses different approaches to proving or disproving the periodicity, including using a graph and mathematical calculations. One member suggests that the observed periodicity may be due to numerical inaccuracies.
  • #1
cybershakith
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Hi all,

Hope some here can help me with this math problem.

Given,
y1 = ax^2 + b.
y2 = cos (y1).
where a and b are constants. Is y2 periodic with respect to x.? Visually using example grpah, seems to be periodic. How do u find the exact period of such a function?

Thanks in advance.

regards,
cybershakith
 
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  • #2
From the graph you should see that it is not periodic, the wavelengths are decreasing as x grows larger. To prove this, assume it has period p, and find an x such that cos(ax^2+b) =/= cos(a(x+p)^2+b). Note that this only works when a is not 0. If a is zero the function is constant and trivially periodic.
 
  • #3
I tried something along those lines.

cos (a*x^2 + b) = cos (a*(x+T)^2 + b)

Hence,
a*x^2 + b + 2* PI*k = a*(x+T)^2 + b, where is k is an integer.

Which reduces to,

2*PI*k = a*2*x*T + a * T^2

So T is function of x.

So the function is not periodic.

But let's take an example,
y = Cos (2*PI*ax^2 + 2*PI*b)
where is a =0.01277777778 and b = 255.5555556;

From plotting this graph, it seems like the y values are peridoc over x = 900.
So how does it happen?

for x =0;
y = Cos (2*PI*ax^2 + 2*PI*b) = Cos 2*PI * 255.5555556;

for x = 900;
y = Cos (2*PI*ax^2 + 2*PI*b) = Cos 2*PI*( 255.5555556 + 0.01277777778*900^2 ) = Cos 2*PI*(10605.5555556);


for x =11;
y = Cos (2*PI*ax^2 + 2*PI*b) = Cos 2*PI*( 255.5555556 + 0.01277777778*11^2 ) = Cos 2*PI*(257.10166671138);

for x = 911;
y = Cos (2*PI*ax^2 + 2*PI*b) = Cos 2*PI*( 255.5555556 + 0.01277777778*911^2 ) = Cos 2*PI*(10860.10166855538); //slight difference due to lack of precision.

This is true for all x, it seems.

this is because fractional part of ax^2 and a(x+T)^2 terms are the same.

So is it periodic?
 
  • #4
I haven't checked out your examples in detail, I'd just like to add that the common way of calculating sin/cos on a computer becomes less accurate the further away from 0 the argument is. Thus it's possible that the observed period is due to numerical inaccuracies.
 
  • #5


Hello cybershakith,

Thank you for reaching out with your question. I am a scientist and I would be happy to help you with this math problem.

To find the period of any function, we need to understand the definition of a periodic function. A periodic function is a function that repeats its values in regular intervals. In other words, the output values of the function will repeat after a certain interval of the input values.

In this case, we have y2 = cos(y1), where y1 = ax^2 + b. To determine if this function is periodic, we need to look at the values of y2 for different values of x. If the values of y2 repeat after a certain interval of x, then the function is periodic.

To find the exact period of this function, we need to use the definition of cosine function. The cosine function has a period of 2π, which means the values of cosine will repeat after every 2π units of the input. In this case, the input is y1 = ax^2 + b, so we need to find the values of y1 that correspond to a change of 2π in the input.

To do this, we can set y1 = ax^2 + b = 2π, and solve for x. This will give us the value of x at which the input changes by 2π. We can then use this value to find the period of the function.

I hope this explanation helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Best regards,
(scientist)
 

What is the formula for finding the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term?

The formula for finding the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term is T = 2π / √(b) where b is the coefficient of the quadratic term in the function's equation.

How do I identify the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term from its graph?

The period of a cosine function with a quadratic term can be identified from its graph by measuring the distance between two consecutive peaks or troughs. This distance is equal to the period of the function.

Can the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term ever be negative?

No, the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term cannot be negative as it represents the distance between two consecutive peaks or troughs which is always a positive value.

Is there a relationship between the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term and its frequency?

Yes, there is a relationship between the period and frequency of a cosine function with a quadratic term. The frequency is the reciprocal of the period, meaning that as the period increases, the frequency decreases and vice versa.

Can the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term be infinite?

No, the period of a cosine function with a quadratic term cannot be infinite as it represents a finite distance between two consecutive peaks or troughs on the graph.

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