Why does positron not annihilate sooner in cloud chamber experiment

In summary, the positron was able to travel through all of these mediums without annihilating, probably because it is a relatively low-energy particle.
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Specifically in Carl D Anderson's cloud chamber experiment, the first experiment to prove the existence of the positron, a positron travels through all of these mediums: glass, charged liquid particles, water vapor, and lastly passes through a lead plate. If antimatter is suppose to anihilate upon contact with ordinary matter how did this positron make it through all of this?

Is it that the positron is so small that it was able to pass all of this without contact?
 
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Specifically in Carl D Anderson's cloud chamber experiment, the first experiment to prove the existence of the positron, a positron travels through all of these mediums: glass, charged liquid particles, water vapor, and lastly passes through a lead plate. If antimatter is suppose to anihilate upon contact with ordinary matter how did this positron make it through all of this?
Because, just as with all other particle interactions, there is a probability/sec for it to occur. It's perfectly possible for a positron and electron to collide without annihilating. The average lifetime of a positron in ordinary matter is of the order of 10-10 sec.

Is it that the positron is so small that it was able to pass all of this without contact?
No, all elementary particles including the positron are the same size, namely they are pointlike.
 
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I wonder if the fact that most of the electrons in everyday space are not free electrons, but are bound to atoms also makes somewhat of a difference. Sadly, I have never seen any calculation of electron-positron annihilation from a bound state, so I can't talk with any authority on the matter.
 
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The interaction of positrons with solid materials is apparently a very interesting and fruitful subject! Positron lifetimes range from a few hundred picoseconds to a few nanoseconds depending on the solid. And http://www.itep.ru/lowenergy/Grafutin/02Gra_Usp_en.pdf is used to study the properties of the material.

For metals, positrons tend to surround themselves with conduction electrons, and their lifetime gives information on the concentration of different types of metallic defects present. For an ionic crystal, positrons may form positronium-like complexes with the negative ions.
 
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Ah, thanks for the information. :)
 
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I'm not familiar with the experiment, but on top of what others have said, it sounds like they must be fairly high energy positrons if they are going through lead. This makes them less likely to interact with things; they can kind of just "punch through".

If you take some radioactive material that decays by beta+ decay, then usually the positron is not such a high energy and will only travel a millimetre or so in something like water. This is why you can do positron emission tomography for medical imaging (PET scans); the positrons annihilate near where the radioactive dye they inject into you travels, and you image the gammas that come flying out. Still, there are gazillions of electrons over that millimetre, so it does still scatter off lots of them before annihilating.
 

What is a positron and what is a cloud chamber experiment?

A positron is a subatomic particle with the same mass as an electron but with a positive charge. A cloud chamber experiment is a scientific experiment that uses a sealed chamber filled with a supersaturated vapor to detect the presence of charged particles.

Why does a positron not annihilate sooner in a cloud chamber experiment?

Positrons have a short lifespan and will typically annihilate with an electron within a very short amount of time. However, in a cloud chamber experiment, the positron is moving at a high velocity and can travel a significant distance before annihilating with an electron.

How does a cloud chamber experiment detect the presence of a positron?

When a positron enters the cloud chamber, it ionizes the vapor molecules, leaving behind a trail of ions. These ions act as condensation nuclei, causing a visible cloud to form along the path of the positron. This cloud can be captured on film or observed directly with a microscope.

What other particles can be detected in a cloud chamber experiment?

Cloud chamber experiments can detect a variety of charged particles, including electrons, protons, alpha particles, and heavier ions. These particles all have the ability to ionize the vapor molecules and leave behind a visible trail.

What is the significance of studying positrons in a cloud chamber experiment?

Studying positrons in a cloud chamber experiment can provide valuable insight into the behavior and properties of these particles. It can also help to further our understanding of antimatter and its role in the universe.

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