New quantum experiments and its implications

In summary, the conversation discusses an experiment involving entangled photons and the concept of backward in time communication. The experiment involves entanglement swapping, where two pairs of entangled photons are produced and one photon from each pair is sent to Victor. Depending on Victor's choice and measurement, Alice's and Bob's photons can be either entangled or separable. This experiment challenges the concept of causality and the idea that events in the future can influence events in the past. The conversation also includes a link to an article discussing the implications of this experiment.
  • #36
Do we expect to see photons #1 and #4 both in VV with photons #2 and #3 in HH (and vice versa)? And not #1 and #4 in HH, and #2 and #3 also in HH?
 
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  • #37
Received a PDF from Johannes Kofler re: the evolution of the separable state. But this is without the EOW's etc in action (which should produce the same result).

However if we have definite states prior to the first BS, even though after they're in superposition of traveling both paths, they reach the plates and are converted into L and R polarisation. When they reach the PBS's after the 2nd BS, wouldn't they have 1/2 probability of taking on V and H? *shrugs*
 

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  • #38
Okay - so I don't understand a few things:

1) We start off with two pairs of entangled photons, #1 and #2, and #3 and #4 as |H>|V> - |V>|H>.
2) How do we get from that to describing #2 and #3 (before the 1st beam splitter) as |H>|H> + |V>|V> and |H>|H> - |V>|V>, when no entanglement swapping hasn't occurred yet?

If we sent #2 and #3 through the interferometry, and they were definite H or V polarised, would we even end up with the results obtained? Shouldn't we describe #2 and #3 before the 1st BS as if they're still entangled originally, and calculate the result from that? But even then we wouldn't end up with |H>|V>(b") or |H>|V>(c") or |H>(b")|H>(c") or |V>(b")|V>(c").
 
  • #39
DrChinese said:
Thanks! Wasn't really sure what the order of magnitude was.

post edit -this should have referenced San K post # 19. My apologies, Dr. Chinese.
Whereas the order of magnitude seems immense, all but these scant few down converted photons pass 'straight' through the mechanism while the 'entangled' down converted photons travel in a cone away from this straight line. Each pair of down converted photons split 180 degrees from each other. These are the entangled pairs of photons which are used in experiments. There is 'nearly' no messy noise that can enter an experiment in this process. IMO.


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