Complex Scalar Field in Terms of Two Independent Real Fields

In summary, the conversation is discussing the commutator relations of a complex scalar field written in terms of two independent real scalar fields. The speaker is trying to show that certain terms, such as [\phi_1(\vec{x},t),\dot{\phi}_2(\vec{x}',t)], should vanish and is asking for clarification on how to do so. The other person suggests taking this as a quantization condition and confirms that the equation provided is correct. They also mention the Poisson bracket and suggest using Dirac's rule for canonical quantization.
  • #1
ghotra
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I am working with a complex scalar field written in terms of two independent real scalar fields and trying to derive the commutator relations.

So,

[tex] \phi = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \left(\phi_1 + i \phi_2) [/tex]

where [itex]\phi_1[/itex] and [itex]\phi_2[/itex] are real.

When deriving,

[tex] [\phi(\vec{x},t),\dot{\phi}(\vec{x}',t)] = 0 [/tex]

I get terms like the following:

[tex][\phi_1(\vec{x},t),\dot{\phi}_2(\vec{x}',t)][/tex]

which I need to vanish. It makes sense to me that they should vanish, but how do I show this?
 
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  • #2
Hmm...I think that we just take that as the quantization condition. That is,

[tex]
[\phi_r(\vec{x},t),\pi_s(\vec{x}{\,}',t}] = i \delta^3(\vec{x}-\vec{x}{\,}')\delta_{rs}
[/tex]

Is this correct?
 
  • #3
ghotra said:
Hmm...I think that we just take that as the quantization condition. That is,

[tex]
[\phi_r(\vec{x},t),\pi_s(\vec{x}{\,}',t}] = i \delta^3(\vec{x}-\vec{x}{\,}')\delta_{rs}
[/tex]

Is this correct?

Since [itex]\phi_1[/itex] and [itex]\phi_2[/itex] are independent, they'll only be canonically conjugate with their own momenta (the [itex]\delta_{rs}[/itex] on the left). Your equation just states that in combination with the usual commutation relation of the real scalar field.
 
  • #4
[tex]\phi_1[/tex] and [tex]\phi_2[/tex]
are independent fields, so
[tex][\phi_1, \dot{\phi}_2][/tex]=0
 
  • #5
What is the Poisson bracket between the classical fields ? If you know that, you can canonically quantize using Dirac's rule.

Daniel.
 

What is a complex scalar field?

A complex scalar field is a mathematical construct used in physics to describe a field that has both a real and imaginary component. It is represented by a complex number, which is a combination of a real number and an imaginary number.

What are the two independent real fields that make up a complex scalar field?

The two independent real fields that make up a complex scalar field are the real part and imaginary part. These two fields are perpendicular to each other and together make up the complex number.

How is a complex scalar field different from a scalar field?

A complex scalar field differs from a scalar field in that it has two independent components, whereas a scalar field only has one. A scalar field is represented by a real number, while a complex scalar field is represented by a complex number.

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