How do gravitational fields and waves interact with black holes and FTL travel?

In summary, the current understanding is that a gravitational field does not necessarily need to travel and may be created outside of a black hole. This is due to the fact that a static gravitational field also has energy and can create a gravitational field itself. The static gravitational field effects would be mediated by a virtual particle which has no upper limit to its speed and acts instantaneously at an arbitrarily large distance. However, the use of the term "virtual particle" is not appropriate in the context of black holes, as they are better described using classical physics rather than quantum physics. It is more accurate to speak of gravitational fields and gravitational waves rather than "real particles" or "gravitons".
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How fast do we expect the hypothetical graviton to travel?

It seems that if the graviton were to mediate the gravitational force then it wouldn't be subject to the normal FTL rules otherwise black holes would have no gravitational effect on the rest of the universe.

What's the current understanding of this?
 
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First, a gravitational field does not need to travel at all. You may feel a static gravitational field around a black hole.

Second, even if a gravitational field travels from the black hole, it may be created OUTSIDE of the black hole. In this way it can reach you without a FTL travel.

How can a gravitational field be created outside if the matter is inside? That's because the static gravitational field also has energy (equivalent to a mass via E=mc^2), so gravitational field may be created by gravitational field itself.

By contrast, electromagnetic field cannot be created by electromagnetic field itself. That's because electromagnetic field is created by charge, while electromagnetic field itself is not charged.
 
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So the static gravitational field effects would be mediated by the virtual particle which has no upper limit to its speed and acts instantaneously at an arbitrarily large distance. Dynamic gravitational field effects would be mediated by a real particle that orginiates on the horizon of the black hole. For an infalling observer it must originate at the apparent horizon rather than the absolute horizon, right?
 
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So the static gravitational field effects would be mediated by the virtual particle which has no upper limit to its speed and acts instantaneously at an arbitrarily large distance.
A static configuration does not involve something which moves with an infinite velocity. A static configuration involves something which moves with a zero velocity, i.e. does not move at all. That's what the word "static" means: not moving.

Note also that I don't use the words "virtual particle". Tha's because virtual particles do not exist. They are merely a convenient mathematical tool useful for approximate calculations when interactions are not strong. Moreover, they are used mostly in quantum physics, while gravitational attraction by the black hole is better described with classical (not quantum) physics. So in the context of black holes, it is better to avoid the "virtual-particle" language.

Furthermore, in the context of classical gravity, even the concepts such as "real particle" or "graviton" are not appropriate. It is better to speak of gravitational fields and gravitational waves.
 
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1. What is a graviton?

A graviton is a hypothetical particle proposed by scientists to explain the force of gravity. It is thought to be the smallest unit of gravity and is believed to travel at the speed of light.

2. How are black holes formed?

Black holes are formed when a massive star dies and collapses under its own gravity. The intense gravitational pull becomes so strong that even light cannot escape, creating a singularity at the center.

3. Can anything escape from a black hole?

No, nothing can escape from a black hole once it crosses its event horizon. This includes light, making black holes invisible to the naked eye.

4. What is FTL travel?

FTL (faster-than-light) travel is a concept in science fiction that involves traveling at speeds faster than the speed of light. While it is currently not possible according to our current understanding of physics, some theories suggest that it may be possible through the manipulation of space-time.

5. Are there any real-world applications for studying gravitons and black holes?

Studying gravitons and black holes can help us better understand the fundamental laws of the universe and the behavior of gravity. This knowledge can potentially lead to advancements in space travel and technologies that utilize the force of gravity.

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