Speed of moving mass as it loses mass

In summary, a freight car of mass M contains a mass of sand m and is subjected to a constant horizontal force and sand leaking from the bottom at a constant rate. The changing mass of the car causes the acceleration to increase over time. To find the speed when all the sand is gone, the equation F=ma is not valid as the mass is changing. Instead, Newton's second law in its more general form, F= d(mv)/dt, must be used.
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Homework Statement


A Freight Car of Mass M contains a mass of sand m. At t=0, a constant horizontal force i applied in the direction of rolling, and at the same time a port in the bottom is opened to let the sand flow out at a constant rate dm/dt. Find the speed of the freight care when all the sand is gone. Assume the car is at rest at t=0


Homework Equations


F= ma
mv = mv - conservation of momentum?


The Attempt at a Solution


If there were no sand leaking from the bottom of the train, then the train would be accelerating at a constant acceleration because F= (M+m)a and the masses would be constant. However, the mass is changing, so the acceleration will be increasing over time. I'm just not sure how I can put these into a mathematical answer

 
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Hi lei123! Welcome to PF! :wink:
lei123 said:

Homework Statement


A Freight Car of Mass M contains a mass of sand m. At t=0, a constant horizontal force i applied in the direction of rolling, and at the same time a port in the bottom is opened to let the sand flow out at a constant rate dm/dt. Find the speed of the freight care when all the sand is gone. Assume the car is at rest at t=0

If there were no sand leaking from the bottom of the train, then the train would be accelerating at a constant acceleration because F= (M+m)a and the masses would be constant. However, the mass is changing, so the acceleration will be increasing over time. I'm just not sure how I can put these into a mathematical answer

Just do it step by step …

what is the mass at time t? …

what is the acceleration at time t? :smile:
 
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lei123 said:
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Homework Equations


F= ma
mv = mv - conservation of momentum?


The momentum is not conserved as there is an external force, and also the mass is changing. Moreover, F=ma is valid for a body of constant mass. Newton formulated his second law in a more general form, so it was valid even for changing mass:

"The change of momentum of a body is proportional to the impulse impressed on the body, and happens along the straight line on which that impulse is impressed."

F*dt = d (mv)

that is F = d(mv)/dt = v*dm/dt +m*dv/dt.


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The "speed of moving mass as it loses mass" refers to the phenomenon where the speed of a moving object decreases as it loses mass. This can occur in various contexts, such as in space where objects lose mass due to fuel consumption, or in a chemical reaction where a substance loses mass as it undergoes a transformation.

Why does the speed of a moving mass decrease as it loses mass?

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