Question about the energy of an electron orbiting the nucleaus

In summary, the conversation discussed the difficulty of calculating the energy of an electron orbiting a nucleus, specifically in a hydrogen atom. Using classical mechanics, the Coulombic force and centripetal force equations were used to estimate the electron's velocity and kinetic energy. However, due to the nature of quantum mechanics, the accuracy of these calculations is limited. Additionally, the formula for potential energy was incorrect, as the correct formula is qV, resulting in a potential energy of -2 times the kinetic energy.
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MohdAziz
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Hello,
I have a difficulty calculating the energy of an electron orbiting a nucleus, let's say we have a a hydrogen atom, there is only one electron orbiting around the proton. And since the radius never changes.
r = 5.29 x 10^-11 m
charge (qp) of proton= 1.60 x 10^-19 Coulumbs
charge (qe) of electron= -1.60 x 10^-19 Coulumbs
mass proton= 1.67 x 10^-27 kg
mass electron= 9.11 x 10^-31 kg

F = k (charge of proton) (charge of electron)/ (r^2)

If you solve for the Coulombic force, you get that it is approximately 8.221 * 10^-8 N.

This is equal to the centripetal force of any object in uniform circular motion: m(v^2)/r
Therefore:

8.221 * 10^-8 = (mass of the electron) v^2/ (r)
v^2 = 4.773 * 10^12
v is approximately 2.184 * 10^6 m/s

And after that to find the total enegry which is equal to total energy = U + KE

KE = 1/2 * m v^2 = 1/2 * 9.901 * 10^-31 * (2.183 * 10^6)^2 = 2.36 * 10^-18.

U = qE, E ( produced by the proton) = kcq/r^2 thus E = 5.141 * 10^11
thus U = qe = 8.226 * 10-8 J

Is my answer correct?
 
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First, note that the electron in a hydrogen atom can only be treated properly with quantum mechanics, and it's quantum mechanics that let's you derive the atomic radius. If we're given the radius, your calculation will give an answer of the right order of magnitude. But you can't hope for more accuracy than that, because you are doing classical mechanics, not quantum mechanics.

Your kinetic energy is indeed the right order of magnitude, assuming your answer is in Joules (units are important!).

You are using the wrong formula for potential energy. qE is the force on a charge, not its potential energy. The potential energy is given by qV, where the potential V of a point charge is kq/r. You should end up with a potential energy equal to -2 times the kinetic energy.
 

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The energy level of an electron orbiting the nucleus is determined by its distance from the nucleus. The further away an electron is from the nucleus, the higher its energy level.

2. How is the energy of an electron orbiting the nucleus related to its speed?

The energy of an electron orbiting the nucleus is directly proportional to its speed. This means that as the speed of the electron increases, its energy also increases.

3. Does the energy of an electron change as it moves between energy levels?

Yes, the energy of an electron changes as it moves between energy levels. When an electron moves from a higher energy level to a lower one, it releases energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation. On the other hand, when an electron absorbs energy, it moves to a higher energy level.

4. How does the energy of an electron affect its stability in orbit?

The energy of an electron plays a crucial role in determining its stability in orbit. Electrons in lower energy levels are more stable and less likely to move to higher energy levels. However, electrons in higher energy levels are less stable and can easily move to lower energy levels.

5. Can the energy of an electron orbiting the nucleus ever be zero?

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