Epsilon-Delta definition of a Limit: Question

In summary, the person is asking for clarification on using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit when approaching the maximum of a parabola. They have noticed that any value of epsilon puts L+epsilon outside the range of f(x), so they are questioning if only L-epsilon should be considered. The other person responds by stating that the limit at a max/min is found the same way as any other point and that the direction of approach only matters when approaching from the right or left, not above or below. They also mention that for L=0 and e as an arbitrary positive number, x always takes values between L+e and L-e. This extra information is not needed to evaluate the limit.
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GeoMike
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This may be a dumb question, but:

Using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, when x is approaching the maximum of a parabola, like with: [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow0}-x^2[/tex], obviously any value of epsilon puts [tex]L+\epsilon[/tex] outside the range of f(x). So, I take it in this case only [tex]L-\epsilon[/tex] is considered (which made sense to me graphically since you now have two points where the function intersects this line)?

I just need verification (or correction) on this because every example and problem in the two textbooks I have has given/displayed an L and an epsilon such that [tex]L-\epsilon[/tex] and [tex]L+\epsilon[/tex] both lie within the range of f(x).

-GeoMike-
 
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GeoMike said:
This may be a dumb question, but:

Using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, when x is approaching the maximum of a parabola, like with: [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow0}-x^2[/tex], obviously any value of epsilon puts [tex]L+\epsilon[/tex] outside the range of f(x). So, I take it in this case only [tex]L-\epsilon[/tex] is considered?

no. you find the limit at a max/min just like you would at any other point. i think the only instance where the direction you approach a certain valuie matters is when you approcah from the right or left, not from above/below.
 
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x always does take values between L + e and L - e for L = 0 and e an arbitrary positive number. The values all happen to be between L and L - e, with none greater than L, but this is extra information that you don't need to evaluate the limit.
 

1. What is the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit?

The Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit is a mathematical concept used to precisely define the limit of a function as it approaches a specific point. It involves using two parameters, epsilon (ε) and delta (δ), to determine the closeness of the function values to the limit point.

2. Why is the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit important?

The Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit is important because it provides a rigorous and formal way to define the concept of a limit in calculus. It allows for precise calculations and proofs, and is essential for understanding the behavior of functions near a specific point.

3. How do you use the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit to prove a limit exists?

To prove that a limit exists using the Epsilon-Delta definition, you must show that for any value of epsilon (ε), there exists a corresponding value of delta (δ) such that the difference between the function values and the limit point is less than epsilon (|f(x)-L| < ε) whenever the input is within delta units of the limit point (0 < |x-a| < δ). This shows that the function values can get arbitrarily close to the limit point, proving the existence of the limit.

4. Can the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit be used for all functions?

No, the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit can only be used for functions that are continuous at the limit point. This means that the function must have a defined value at the limit point and the function values must approach that value as the input approaches the limit point. For functions that are not continuous, other methods must be used to determine the limit.

5. How can the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit be applied in real-world situations?

The Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit can be used in various real-world situations, such as in physics to determine the velocity or acceleration of an object at a specific point in time. It can also be used in engineering to calculate the stability of a structure or in economics to analyze the behavior of a market at a certain point. Essentially, the Epsilon-Delta definition of a limit allows for precise and accurate calculations in many real-world scenarios.

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