Solving the Unsolvable: Two Ball Problem

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two balls being thrown at different speeds and directions, and finding the distance at which they pass each other. The participants suggest using kinematic equations for uniform acceleration and setting the equations equal to each other to find the time at which the balls meet. The final answer is -10m, but there is confusion about the sign convention and proper use of equations.
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ive been having difficulty with this problem also:

A ball is thrown downward with an initial speed of 25m/s from the top of a 210 m tall building. At the same time, another ball is thrown upward from ground level with a speed of 25m/s. At what distance from the bottom of the two balls pass each other?

the answer is supposed to be "-10 m so it is illogical."
so far i know that for the first ball Vi=25m/s d=210m a=9.8m/s^2

2nd ball Vi=25n/s d=? a=-9.8m/s^2

are we supposed to set the distance of each of the balls equal?? i really have no idea how to do this :confused:
 
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Write the position as a function of time for each of the balls then set them equal to find the time at which they meet.

I got 18.56 m.
 
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Find a equation for each ball in function of distance and equal them.Look up Kinematic Equations for Uniform Acceleration, here the acceleration is Gravity (might want to look up Free Fall, too).
 
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so the equation would be (25m/s)(t)+1/2(9.8)t^2=(25m/s)(t)+1/2(-9.8)t^2?
(1st ball and 2nd ball respectively)
what do i do with the 210 m?

btw, my teacher gave us an answer sheet and the answer is -10m
 
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Saiyan... Stick to your Sign Convention... if put down and left is negative and up and right is positive, then this should affect the systems you're studying, i see a positive acceleration for one and a negative for another.
 
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I also noticed improper use of the equation.

[tex] Y - Y_{o} = V_{o}t + \frac{1}{2}at^2 [/tex]

where, Yo, Vo and a is known.
 
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that is the equation i used: d=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2
 
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saiyajin822 said:
that is the equation i used: d=Vi(t)+1/2a(t)^2

For this problem you'll have to use it with Y - Yo.
 
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Y-Yo? i only see one y and that's 210m
 

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