Rolling Resistance for Large Trucks

In summary, at 60,000 lbs, the rolling resistance causes a force of 2142 N, while air drag at 35 mph produces a force of 676 N. The deceleration of the truck is -0.011 g (-0.103 m/s2). This yields a distance to coast to a stop of 1186 meters, or nearly 3/4 of a mile.
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jimgram
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I'm calculating the rolling resistance and air drag for a 60,000 lb truck. I used a Cd=0.7 for drag coefficient; 6 m2 for frontal area; and a rolling coefficient of Cr=.008; density of air=1.3 kg/m3.

I get a force from rolling resistance of 2142 N (Cr*mass*g). I get a force from air drag at 35 mph of 676 N (1/2*ρ*Aveh*Cd*v2).

All is well - until I calculated the deceleration of this truck based on these two forces (I.E. the transmission is in neutral and no brakes) (a=f/m). I get a deceleration of -0.011 g (-0.103 m/s2).

This decel rate yields a distance to coast to a stop (v2/2*a) of 1186 meters - nearly 3/4 of a mile and taking 152 seconds (almost 2.5 minutes). This, to me, seems unbelievable for a 60,000 truck. If I change the velocity to 60 mph I get a 1 1/2 mile coast taking about 3 minutes. Can't be - where did I go wrong??
 
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Looks about right to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYE2TN2zI8M​

And I don't think the car was in neutral, so there was probably some engine braking involved. There is also this other real-life example:
On a training day with negligible wind, sunswift IV entered the flat straight of the race track at 70 k.p.h. The driver then switched the motor off and coasted, using no brakes. After covering a marked kilometer, she was traveling at 50 k.p.h. What is her acceleration?

In your example, the real result would even be longer as drag will lower with speed, hence acceleration will lower as well.
 
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Air resistance isn't linear in the sense we think it is.
 
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jimgram said:
All is well - until I calculated the deceleration of this truck based on these two forces (I.E. the transmission is in neutral and no brakes) (a=f/m). I get a deceleration of -0.011 g (-0.103 m/s2).

As jack action observes, air resistance decreases in magnitude as the speed decreases, so it's incorrect to use a constant acceleration formula to solve this problem. The solution is a bit more complicated since it's a non-linear ODE as well: [tex] m\dot{v} = - b v^2 - Cmg.[/tex] If you solve it (it's a little tricky to do, but possible), you'll see that you get a bit more than 2.5 minutes stopping time when you take into account the reduced force with time. If you're confused, you're probably thinking it's because the truck is so massive that it should have a large resistive force against it -- and that's true. But it also has a lot of momentum, and the drag forces take a long time to erode it all. Or another way to think about it is that the mass represents resistance to acceleration, and in particular more mass makes it take longer to decelerate the truck (and this effect competes with the larger rolling resistance).

mylarcapsrock said:
Air resistance isn't linear in the sense we think it is.

Well, hardly a criticism, as the drag listed in the OP is indeed non-linear :)
 
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Steely Dan said:
Well, hardly a criticism, as the drag listed in the OP is indeed non-linear :)

Really? Show me where it's NOT in his calculation.
 
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I'm convinced. I think I'm just accustomed to trucks with improperly inflated tires and drivers rarely, if ever, shift to neutral and totally decouple the engine. In fact, it's more common to use engine braking.

BTW - I know air drag is a function of velocity squared and while it only accounts for 24% of the total drag at 35 mph, it very rapidly diminishes, making the coast time and distance even greater. Thanks for all of the input.
 

1. What is rolling resistance for large trucks?

Rolling resistance is the force that opposes the motion of a large truck when it is in motion. It is caused by the friction between the tires of the truck and the road surface.

2. How is rolling resistance measured for large trucks?

Rolling resistance is measured by the coefficient of rolling resistance (CRR). This is a dimensionless value that represents the force required to maintain a constant speed of a truck against its weight.

3. What factors affect rolling resistance for large trucks?

There are several factors that can affect rolling resistance for large trucks, including tire design, tire pressure, road surface, speed, and weight of the truck.

4. How does rolling resistance impact fuel efficiency for large trucks?

Rolling resistance has a direct impact on fuel efficiency for large trucks. The higher the rolling resistance, the more fuel is needed to overcome it, resulting in lower fuel efficiency.

5. How can rolling resistance be reduced for large trucks?

There are several ways to reduce rolling resistance for large trucks, including using low rolling resistance tires, maintaining proper tire pressure, reducing speed, and properly loading the truck to minimize weight.

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