Is Regularity Preserved Under Reparametrization?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of reparametrization of curves in differential geometry. It is noted that a reparametrization of a regular curve is also regular, but this is contradicted by a different definition of reparametrization that does not require smoothness. The importance of smoothness in this concept is also questioned.
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Here's something really weird. As can be read in Pressley's "Elementary Differential Geometry":

Proposition 1.3: Any reparametrization of a regular curve is regular.

And 4 pages later:

Exemple 1.8: For the parametrization [itex]\gamma(t)=(t,t^2)[/itex] of the parabola y=x², [itex]\dot{\gamma}[/itex] is never 0 so [itex]\gamma[/itex] is regular. But [itex]\tilde{\gamma}(t)=(t^3,t^6)[/itex] is also a parametrization of the same parabila. This time, [itex]\dot{\tilde{\gamma}}=(3t^2,6t^5)[/itex] and this is zero when t=0, so [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is not regular.

Just to make sure that [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is a reparametrization of [itex]\gamma[/itex], consider the reparametrization map [itex]\phi:(-\infty,+\infty)\rightarrow (-\infty,+\infty)[/itex] define by [itex]\phi(t)=t^3[/itex]. Then [itex]\phi[/itex] is a smooth bijection with a smooth inverse such that [itex]\gamma \circ \phi = (\phi(t),\phi(t)^2)=(t^3,t^6)= \tilde{\gamma}[/itex], so [itex]\tilde{\gamma}[/itex] is really a reparametrization of [itex]\gamma[/itex] but it is not regular, contradicting proposition 1.3.
 
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It's inverse is not smooth. It's inverse isn't even once differentiable (look at what would happen to the derivative of the inverse at 0).
 
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mmh, yes.

What is a little strange though is that in another book on differential geometry, the author makes the definition that a curve is a reparametrization of another curve is there exist a reparametrization map btw them that is continuous, bijective (from the domain of one curve to the domain of the other) and monotonous increasing. In other words, he does not require of the reparametrization map to be smooth.

So these two ways of defining when two curves differ by a change of param really aren't equivalent, because in the second case, proposition 1.3 above is not true. :-O
 
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the author makes the definition that a curve is a reparametrization of another curve is there exist a reparametrization map btw them that is continuous, bijective (from the domain of one curve to the domain of the other) and monotonous increasing.
No, the reparameterisation has to be differentiable as well. I.e., the whole thing has to be a "diffeomorphism", not just a straight isomorphism. Not that a striaght isomorphism would be completely terrible. It just wouldn't be a very good curve anymore.
 
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That the reparametrization map and its inverse be one time differentiable is enough for prop.1.3 to be true. Is "smoothness" a luxury, or is it important for some other reason that it really be indefinitely differentiable?
 
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Smoothness is a luxury - almost all of differential geometry can be done with C^2 functions.
 
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Good to know.
 

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