Solving a System of Equations Without a Calculator

In summary, the conversation discussed finding the number of solutions for the system of equations involving y = -4log_{12} (x) and y = 4 sin(x). The participants suggested using properties of logarithms and knowledge of the graph of y = sin(x) to solve the problem. They also discussed finding the number of points of intersection between the two graphs.
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Hi, this should be the last question for today :lol:
Determine the number of solutions for the following system:
[tex] y = -4log_{12} (x) [/tex]
[tex] y = 4 sin(x) [/tex]
Is there a way to do this without using a graphing calculator? Thank you very much!
 
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You do know that -1 <= sin(x) <= 1. That should be a good place to start. :)
 
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dragon513 said:
Hi, this should be the last question for today :lol:
Determine the number of solutions for the following system:
[tex] y = -4log_{12} (x) [/tex]
[tex] y = 4 sin(x) [/tex]
Is there a way to do this without using a graphing calculator? Thank you very much!

Hi, hopefully you know some properties of log for the first one.
Hint:[tex]y=log_{10}(x)[/tex]
[tex]10^y = x[/tex]
and [tex]y=a*logx = log(x^a)[/tex]

For the second one, what do you have trouble with?
Can you draw [tex]y=sinx[/tex]?(of course without a calculator)
If you CAN, 4 is just the amplitude, and the graph's domain is[tex](-\infty, \infty)[/tex]
 
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PhysicsinCalifornia said:
Hi, hopefully you know some properties of log for the first one.
Hint:[tex]y=log_{10}(x)[/tex]
[tex]10^y = x[/tex]
and [tex]y=a*logx = log(x^a)[/tex]

For the second one, what do you have trouble with?
Can you draw [tex]y=sinx[/tex]?(of course without a calculator)
If you CAN, 4 is just the amplitude, and the graph's domain is[tex](-\infty, \infty)[/tex]

Thanks for the input, but that's how far I got by myself :(
I should I get the intersecting points of the two graphs? Should I just use the calculator? Or is there another way around it?
 
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dragon513 said:
Thanks for the input, but that's how far I got by myself :(
I should I get the intersecting points of the two graphs? Should I just use the calculator? Or is there another way around it?
You don't need to "get the intersecting points of the two graphs", you want to find their number.
Helpful apprach - solve an easier problem first:
how many points of intersection do these graphs have
[tex]y=4 sin(x)[/tex] and
[tex]y=x / 25[/tex] ?
Graph "by hand" and see the pattern.
 
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1. What is the best method to solve a system of equations without a calculator?

The best method to solve a system of equations without a calculator is by using the elimination method. This involves eliminating one variable by adding or subtracting the two equations, then solving for the remaining variable.

2. How do you know when a system of equations has no solutions?

If the two equations in a system are parallel, they will never intersect and therefore have no solutions. This can also be determined if the equations result in a contradiction when the variables are solved for.

3. Can a system of equations have infinite solutions?

Yes, a system of equations can have infinite solutions if the two equations are identical. This means that every point on the line of one equation is also a point on the line of the other equation.

4. Is it possible to solve a system of equations without eliminating a variable?

Yes, it is possible to solve a system of equations without eliminating a variable by using substitution. This involves solving for one variable in one equation and plugging it into the other equation to solve for the remaining variable.

5. What is the difference between consistent and inconsistent systems of equations?

A consistent system of equations has at least one solution, meaning that the two equations intersect at a point. An inconsistent system of equations has no solutions, as the equations do not intersect at any point on a graph.

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