Relativistic Doppler Effect and a Baseball

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of a radar device to measure the speed of a pitched baseball, which involves measuring the shift in frequency of electromagnetic waves reflected off of the ball. The problem at hand involves a fractional frequency shift and the question of whether there is a double Doppler shift. After some discussion and attempts at solving the problem, the correct equation to use is determined to be u = (c * ((DELf/f0)^2) - 1) / ((DELf/f0)^2 + 1), and the solution is found to be the speed of light.
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[SOLVED] Relativistic Doppler Effect and a Baseball

Homework Statement



A baseball coach uses a radar device to measure the speed of an approaching pitched baseball. This device sends out electromagnetic waves with frequency [tex] f_0 [/tex] and then measures the shift in frequency [tex] \Delta f [/tex] of the waves reflected from the moving baseball.

If the fractional frequency shift produced by a baseball is [tex]\frac{\Delta f}{f_0}[/tex] 2.88×10−7, what is the baseball's speed? (Hint: Are the waves Doppler-shifted a second time when reflected off the ball?)

Homework Equations



[tex] u = \frac{c((\frac{\delta f}{f_0})^2) - 1}{\frac{\delta f}{f_0})^2 + 1} [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried putting the variables in, but becasue there is a double doppler shift, the asnwer was incorrect. Was is the best way to do this question when a Double Shift occurs?

Any ideas gratly appreciated,

TFM

Edit: in the formulas, that should be a big Delta not a small Delta, Sorry
 
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If the DELf given is actually twice the doppler shift we're interested in... then what DELf should we use?
 
  • #3
Would it be half?

TFM
 
  • #4
exactly
 
  • #5
When I enter it into the equation, it just seems to spit out the speed of Light...?

TFM
 
  • #6
You're equation might not be quite right...

namely: where you have Delf / f; i think it should be (observed f) / (source f).
Del f / f = (source f - observed f) / (source f)

.. try it the other?
 
  • #7
I was using the wrong formula :bugeye:

The equation to use is:

[tex] \frac{\Delta f}{f_0} = \frac{u}{c} [/tex]

Thanks for the assistance, lzkelley, :smile:

TFM
 

1. How does the Relativistic Doppler Effect affect the speed of a baseball?

The Relativistic Doppler Effect does not directly affect the speed of a baseball. It is a phenomenon that describes the change in frequency and wavelength of a wave (such as light or sound) when the source of the wave is moving relative to the observer. In the case of a baseball, the speed would be affected by factors such as gravity, air resistance, and the force applied by the player.

2. Can the Relativistic Doppler Effect be observed in a baseball game?

Yes, the Relativistic Doppler Effect can be observed in a baseball game. For example, the sound of a baseball being hit by a bat will have a higher frequency (and therefore a higher pitch) for a spectator sitting behind home plate compared to a spectator sitting in the outfield. This is because the baseball is moving towards the home plate spectator, causing a higher frequency of sound waves to reach their ears.

3. How is the Relativistic Doppler Effect different from the Classical Doppler Effect?

The Relativistic Doppler Effect takes into account the effects of special relativity, which states that the laws of physics are the same for all observers in uniform motion. This means that the perceived frequency and wavelength of a wave will differ for observers in relative motion. The Classical Doppler Effect, on the other hand, is based on the assumption that the source of the wave is stationary and only the observer is in motion.

4. Does the Relativistic Doppler Effect have any practical applications in the field of baseball?

While the Relativistic Doppler Effect may not have any direct applications in the field of baseball, the principles behind it are used in radar technology. Radar uses the Doppler Effect to measure the speed and direction of moving objects, including baseballs. This information is then used to track the trajectory of a baseball and determine whether it is a strike or a ball.

5. How does the speed of the baseball affect the observed frequency and wavelength of sound?

According to the Relativistic Doppler Effect, the speed of the source of the wave (in this case, the baseball) will affect the perceived frequency and wavelength of the sound waves. If the baseball is moving towards the observer, the frequency will be higher and the wavelength will be shorter. If the baseball is moving away from the observer, the frequency will be lower and the wavelength will be longer. This is because the speed of the wave relative to the observer is affected by the speed of the source.

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