Why is the Archimedian Property used?

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In summary, the Archimedian Property is used in the proof of showing that limits of series and sequences exist. It states that for any real number x, there exists a natural number k that is greater than x. This property is needed in the proof, which involves using epsilon arguments to show that various things tend to zero. The proof involves showing that the sequence 1/n is decreasing and bounded below, and therefore converges to some limit x. By comparing this with the subsequence (1/n)^2, we can show that x=x^2, which means x=0 or x=1. The property is also formulated as for any d>0, there exists an integer n such that nd>1.
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We are currently busy in calculus in proving limits of series ans sequences exist and so on. We use epsilon arguments to prove these things. Somewhere in the proof, the Archimedian Property is used i.e. for every real number x there exists a natural number k such that k > x. I don't understand why this is needed. Can someone please shed some light on this for me? Help me to underdtand this method of proving things. It doenst seem at all logical to me.:smile:
 
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Switch it round: given any [tex]\epsilon>0[/tex] (ie 1/x) [tex]\exists n \in \mathbb{N}[/tex] with [tex]1/n < \epsilon[/tex] so that the sequence 1/n tends to zero, and by comparison with this we can show lots of other things tend to zero. The proof is quite nice, I don't know if you've seen it - 1/n is decreasing and bounded below - it converges therefore to some limit x, then (1/n)^2 tends to x^2 and also, since it is a subsequence of the first sequence, it tends to x, thus x=x^2, ie x=0,1. Obvioulsy it isn't 1 (prove rigorously using the negation of the definition of convergence if you must). There is also the formulation that given any d>0, there is an integer n with nd>1
 
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The Archimedian Property is a fundamental concept in mathematics that plays a crucial role in proving the existence of limits of sequences and series. This property states that for any real number x, there exists a natural number k that is greater than x. This may seem like a simple and obvious statement, but it has powerful implications in calculus.

In order to prove the existence of limits of sequences and series, we often use the concept of epsilon arguments. These arguments involve choosing a small positive number, epsilon, and showing that for any value of epsilon, we can find a corresponding natural number k such that the difference between the sequence or series and its limit is less than epsilon. This is where the Archimedian Property comes into play.

By using the Archimedian Property, we can guarantee that there will always be a natural number k that is greater than any given real number x. This allows us to choose a specific value of k that will satisfy the epsilon condition, making our proof valid. Without the Archimedian Property, we would not be able to make this crucial step in our proof.

In essence, the Archimedian Property allows us to bridge the gap between real numbers and natural numbers, which are often used in mathematical proofs. It is a powerful tool that helps us prove the existence of limits and further our understanding of calculus. So while it may seem confusing or illogical at first, the Archimedian Property is an essential concept in mathematics and plays a key role in proving theorems and solving problems. I hope this helps to shed some light on this topic and helps you to better understand the method of proving things in calculus.
 

1. Why is the Archimedian Property used in mathematics?

The Archimedian Property is used in mathematics because it allows us to compare and measure infinitely large or infinitely small quantities using real numbers. This property ensures that there is always a real number that is larger or smaller than any given quantity, making it a fundamental concept in calculus and other branches of mathematics.

2. What is the significance of the Archimedian Property in calculus?

In calculus, the Archimedian Property is crucial for the definition and understanding of limits, derivatives, and integrals. It allows us to approximate curves and calculate rates of change using infinitely small intervals, which is the basis of the derivative concept. It also helps us to find the area under a curve by dividing it into infinitely small rectangles, which is the foundation of the integral concept.

3. How is the Archimedian Property related to the concept of continuity?

The Archimedian Property is closely related to the concept of continuity in mathematics. A function is said to be continuous at a point if the limit of the function at that point is equal to the value of the function at that point. The Archimedian Property ensures that we can always find a small enough interval around a point where the limit and the value of the function are equal, thus establishing continuity.

4. Can you give an example of how the Archimedian Property is used in real-life applications?

One example of the Archimedian Property being used in real-life applications is in the field of economics, particularly in the study of supply and demand. The concept of elasticity of demand, which measures the responsiveness of the quantity demanded to a change in price, relies on the Archimedian Property. It allows us to approximate the change in quantity demanded as the price changes by using infinitely small intervals.

5. How does the Archimedian Property differ from the Well-Ordering Principle?

The Archimedian Property and the Well-Ordering Principle are both fundamental concepts in mathematics, but they are not the same. The Archimedian Property deals with the comparison and measurement of real numbers, while the Well-Ordering Principle states that every non-empty set of positive integers has a least element. In other words, the Archimedian Property is about the existence of infinitely large and small quantities, while the Well-Ordering Principle is about the existence of a smallest element in a set of integers.

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