Finding Irms for rectified half wave

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In summary, the conversation is discussing how to calculate the Irms of a rectified half wave with a peak of 10A and a flat line for 4.0ms. It is mentioned that the Irms cannot be calculated using the formula Irms= Ipeak/ .707. Instead, the formula for calculating the rms of a periodic function is given. The conversation then discusses how the Irms would change if the DC current was turned off for 50% of the time. The correct answer is found to be 3.535 amps, not 5 amps as previously suggested.
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I'm given a rectified half wave, first half of sine wave (lasts 4.0ms) has peak of 10A, followed by a flat line for another 4.0ms



how am i supposed to calculate the Irms? I can't apply Irms= Ipeak/ .707 so what should i do?



could someone explain why it turns out as 5.0A? 10A/2? if so, why?
 
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Welcome to PF.

The rms of a periodic function is given by:

[tex]
f_{rms} = \sqrt {{\textstyle{1 \over T}}\int\limits_0^T {(f(t))^2 } dt}
[/tex]
where T is the period. Here, [itex]
f(t) = (\sin \omega t + 0)
[/itex].

Your T is 8 ms. Try it now.
 
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If you had a sinewave with a peak current of 10 A the RMS value would be 0.707 times 10 A or 7.07 amps.
You could replace that with a DC current of 7.07 amps and it would work the same at heating something.

Now, look at that DC current and every 8 mS, turn it off for 4 mS and then back on again for 4 mS. 50% on 50% off. What would be the RMS current then?
 
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thx a lot vk6kro! so it would be like [(10/.707)^2*(4ms) + (0)]^ 1/2 which works out to be 5A! nice simple explanation, couldn't understand the complex equation given in the previous reply :( didn't noe what was omega ( 2 pi / 8ms ? ) but thanks guys
 
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The answer isn't 5 amps, sorry. That is wrong.

Turning a 7.07 amp current off for 50 % of the time gives you half the 7.07 amps heating ability.
So, 3.535 amps.

You multiply the peak value by .707 to get RMS but you were showing a divide, I think. You can divide by 1.414 instead if you like. Gives the same result.
 
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1. What is Irms?

Irms stands for root mean square current and is a measure of the effective or average current in an alternating current (AC) circuit. It takes into account the fluctuating nature of AC and gives a value equivalent to the direct current (DC) that would produce the same amount of heat in a resistor.

2. Why is it important to find Irms for rectified half wave?

In rectified half wave circuits, the current is not constant but rather flows in pulses. In order to properly calculate the power dissipated in the circuit and ensure that components are not overloaded, it is important to find the average or effective current, which is represented by Irms.

3. What is the formula for calculating Irms in a rectified half wave circuit?

The formula for Irms in a rectified half wave circuit is: Irms = Imax/√2, where Imax is the maximum current in the circuit.

4. How do you measure the maximum current in a rectified half wave circuit?

The maximum current in a rectified half wave circuit can be measured using a multimeter. The multimeter should be set to measure AC current and then connected in series with the circuit. The maximum value displayed on the multimeter is the value for Imax.

5. Can Irms be calculated for any type of circuit?

Yes, Irms can be calculated for any type of circuit as long as the current is alternating. It is a useful measurement in AC circuits as it takes into account the varying nature of the current. In DC circuits, the current is constant and Irms is equal to the current value.

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