Double checking charges and electrical field problems

In summary, the three particles are located at (3.10, -2.90), (5.10, -2.90), and (7.10, -2.90). The net force on particle 3 is F = -6.8 N.
  • #1
mr_coffee
1,629
1
Hello everyone, I've done a series of physics problems, but I have no way of seeing if they are right or wrong, So I'm going to copy and paste them, and then show you what I did to come up with the answer, I don't expect 1 person to double check all my problems, but if somtime when one or 2 of you are bored can you make sure I did them correctly? Thanks! If this isn't allowed, i'll delete the post immediatley! I Just want to make sure I get a good grade on this.

#2. A 5.0 C charge is 10 m from a -2.0 C charge. The electrostatic force is on the positive charge is:
9.0 108 N toward the negative charge

F = k (5.0C)(-2.0C)/(10m)^2 = 9.0x10^8, toward the negative charge because opposites attract.

#4. Two small charged objects repel each other with a force F when separated by a distance d. If the charge on each object is reduced to one-fourth of its original value and the distance between them is reduced to d/2 the force becomes:

F = (kq^2)/(d/2)
F = [(1/4)^2*2]/d = F/8

#5. What is the magnitude of a point charge that would create an electric field of 3.20 N/C at points 3.10 m away?

E = 1/(4PIEo) (q/r^2);
E(4PIEo)(r^2) = q
(3.20)(4PI)(8.85x10^-12)(3.10)^2 = q
q = 3.42x10^-9


#6. The electric field due to a uniform distribution of charge on a spherical shell is zero:

Only inside the shell

#7. In Figure 22-24, two particles of charge -q are arranged symmetrically about the y axis; each produces an electric field at point P on that axis.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5161/23221om.gif http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5161/23221om.gif
(a) Are the magnitudes of the fields at P equal?
yes

(b) Is each electric field directed toward or away from the charge producing it?

toward
(c) Is the magnitude of the net electric field at P equal to the sum of the magnitudes of the two field vectors (is it equal to 2E)?

no-wouldn't it be the sum of y compoents of E1 and E2?
(d) Do the x components of those two field vectors add or cancel?

cancel
(e) Do their y components add or cancel?
add

(f) Is the direction of the net field at P that of the canceling components or the adding components?
adding components

(g) What is the direction of the net field?
toward negative y

#9. Figure 22-11 shows four situations in which charged particles are fixed in place on an axis.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/510/22115ph.gif http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/510/22115ph.gif

In which situations is there a point to the left of the particles where an electron will be in equilibrium? (Select all that apply.)
situation b- visually it was the only one that made senes to me.

#10. In Figure 22-29 the electric field lines on the left have twice the separation as those on the right.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/83/hrw722290cb.gif http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/83/hrw722290cb.gif
(a) If the magnitude of the field at A is 60 N/C, what force acts on a proton at A?
E = F/q;
F = (60 N/C)(1.6x10^-19);
F = 9.6x10^-8 N;

(b) What is the magnitude of the field at B?

If the magnitude of the field at B is exactly twice as wide, would it just be 120 N/C, because A is 60 N/C ?

#11. A particle of charge of +3.40 10-6 C is 12.0 cm distant from a second particle of charge of -2.20 10-6 C. Calculate the magnitude of the electrostatic force between the particles.

F = [K(q1)(q2)]/r^2;
F = (9E9)(3.40E-6)(2.20E-6)/(.12)^2;
F = 4.675N

#12. The diagram shows two identical positive charges Q. The electric field at point P on the perpendicular bisector of the line joining them:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7912/f230211bk.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7912/f230211bk.jpg

Downwards- i drew the E-field lines and it looks like everyhtiung else cancels out but the y components downward.

#13. Two protons (p1 and p2) and an eletron (e) lie on a straight line, as shown. The directions of the force of p2 on p1, the force of e on p1, and the total force on p1, respectively, are:
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2714/f220330hu.jpg http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2714/f220330hu.jpg

to the left, to the right, to the left

#14. In Figure 21-26, particle 1 of charge +1.0 µC and particle 2 of charge -2.0 µC, are held at separation L = 13.0 cm on an x axis. If particle 3 of unknown charge q3 is to be located such that the net electrostatic force on it from particles 1 and 2 is zero, what must be the coordinates of particle 3?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8479/21262aw.gif http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8479/21262aw.gif

X = ?cm
Y = ?cm

This one i am lost on, any hints would be great!

#15. In Figure 21-24a, particles 1 and 2 have charge 45.0 µC each and are held at separation distance d = 2.70 m.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9029/hrw721247yl.gif http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9029/hrw721247yl.gif

(a) What is the magnitude of the electrostatic force on particle 1 due to particle 2?
F = [(9.9E9)(45.0E-6)^2]/ (2.70m)^2
F= 2.75 N

(b) In Figure 21-24b, particle 3 of charge 45.0 µC is positioned so as to complete an equilateral triangle. What is the magnitude of the net electrostatic force on particle 1 due to particles 2 and 3?
I drew a free body diagram of particle 1, and I'm alittle lost on what the angle between the two forces should be, I know 180 = sum of the angles of a triangle. So I'm thinking it should be 60. Then do i just find the resultant Force vector and that's the answer? Thanks.


Thanks everyone! Just pick and choose! any help would be great! :biggrin:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
#2 : correct

#4 : one mistake - you forgot to square the distance in the force equation
 
  • #3
Thanks so #4 should be F/4?
 
  • #4
mr_coffee said:
Thanks so #4 should be F/4?
Correct

#6 : correct (with an additional "trivial" solution being points at infinity)

#8 : all correct
 
  • #5
#9 : b is correct but there's another solution that you're missing.

Here's a useful way to solve this problem. For each case, consider two extreme points to the left of the charges : point A being very close to the first charge (distance to this charge is way smaller than the distance to the other charge or d1/d2 << 1), and point B being very far from both charges (or d1/d2 = 1, almost). At each point draw the two forces and their resultant. If the resultant changes direction between A and B, there must exist a point between A and B where the resultant = 0.
 
  • #6
i think for 14..it will be workable only by assuming the 3rd particle is a neutrally charged one and by trying to approximate the force experienced by this rticle at varous location such that the net force experienced by this particle is 0...
 
  • #7
thanks for the replies guys, i had a question you said, #8 : all correct, did u mean #7? I never posted 8 i didn't think. Thanks! :biggrin:
 
  • #8
Here's a useful way to solve this problem. For each case, consider two extreme points to the left of the charges : point A being very close to the first charge (distance to this charge is way smaller than the distance to the other charge or d1/d2 << 1), and point B being very far from both charges (or d1/d2 = 1, almost). At each point draw the two forces and their resultant. If the resultant changes direction between A and B, there must exist a point between A and B where the resultant = 0.

I tried that on the other 3 options and everytime I would compare A with B, they never changed direction! :bugeye:
 
  • #9
Damn it! I just wrote answers to 10,11,12,13 and a long detailed answer to 14, and then just as I was about to submit it I clicked preview and internet explorer crashed. Oh well, give me a few hours and I'll come back and do it again.
 
  • #10
#10a correct
#10b when the field lines are further apart, it means that the field is weaker.

#11 correct

#12 To find the electric field consider what would happen to a positive test particle placed at point P. The force due to the first +Q would be to the right and slightly down. The force due to the second +Q would be to the right and slightly up. So the up and down components cancel and the resultant force is to the right.

#13 correct

#14 This one is more difficult. You need to resolve the forces for a point at an arbitrary position on the x-axis. You will have three different equations, one for to the left point 1, one for to the right of point 2, and one for between the two points. I'll do an example for you, for if you are considering to the right of point 2 (which is not where the q3 needs to be placed).
So let's consider placing a particle of charge +q at a position x, where x > .13, and we will consider a force to the right to be positive and a force to the left to be negative.

The force on q due to charge 1 is:
[tex]kq\frac{1.0*10^6}{x^2}[/tex]
The force on q due to charge 2 is:
[tex]kq\frac{-2.0*10^6}{(x-.13)^2}[/tex]
Notice that the force due to charge 1 is positive which means it pushes it to the right, and the force due to charge 2 is negative.
For equilibrium we want these two forces to cancel out.
[tex]\frac{1.0*10^6}{x^2} - \frac{2.0*10^6}{(x-.13)^2} = 0[/tex]
This is a quadratic equation, which has a solution at x=.054. But, this is outside the domain of our equation. When we set up this equation we assumed that charge 1 pushes q to the right, and charge 2 pushes q to the left. If q were in between charges 1 and 2, they would both push it to the right and we would need a different equation. So, there aren't any valid solutions to our equation, which means there aren't any points to the right of charge 2 with zero net electrostatic force.
 
  • #11
#15a correct except that the constant should be 8.9E9 not 9.9E9

#15b Yep, that's the correct procedure. Give it a try and let me know what your answer is.
 
  • #12
Thanks for the help kazaaa! really nice of you. For 15a i got 2.5N For 15b I got 4.33N look good?
 
  • #13
No probs mr coffee. Yep, both of those are correct.
 
  • #14
Kazza, I used ur method to see if there was a point left of the 2nd charge and came out with this...
Hello everyone. I need to see if I did this right. the problem is this:
Particle 1 of charge 1.0E-6 C and particle 2 of charge -2.0E-6 C are held at separation L = 13.0cm on an x axis. If particle 3 of unkonwn charge q3 is to be located such that the net electrostatifc force on it from particles 1 and 2 is zero what must be the coordinates of particle 3?

Here is my drawing and work:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2886/quad5nx.jpg

So would the answer be X = 31.385 cm Y = 0 cm?

does that seem right to you?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #15
Yep, same answer I got, and your working is right, except remember it should be X=-31.385 if I remember the original question correctly.
 
  • #16
thanks again! i also thought it should be negative but in class i asked him and he said, no it should be positive, but if its the distance from the negative x-axis to the orgin, that would be negative i would think, or is distance always positive? or is this considered displacement?
 
  • #17
Yeah, distance is always positive, but the question asked what are the coordinates, so the coordinates are (-31.385,0).
 

1. What is the purpose of double checking charges and electrical field problems?

The purpose of double checking charges and electrical field problems is to ensure the accuracy and reliability of calculations and measurements in the study of electricity and its effects. Double checking helps to catch any errors or inconsistencies that may have been made during the initial analysis, and allows for a more thorough understanding of the concept being studied.

2. How do you double check charges in electrical field problems?

To double check charges in electrical field problems, you can use various methods such as calculating the total charge in a system using different equations or measuring the charge using different instruments. Additionally, you can also compare your results with those from previous experiments or with theoretical values to validate your findings.

3. What are some common mistakes to watch out for when double checking charges and electrical field problems?

Some common mistakes to watch out for when double checking charges and electrical field problems include incorrect unit conversions, overlooking signs in calculations, and using incorrect equations or values. It is important to carefully review all steps and calculations to ensure accuracy and avoid potential errors.

4. How can double checking charges and electrical field problems improve the reliability of experimental data?

Double checking charges and electrical field problems can improve the reliability of experimental data by identifying any errors or inconsistencies in the data. This allows for adjustments to be made and a more accurate representation of the results to be obtained. It also adds an extra layer of validation to the experimental findings.

5. What are some real-life applications of double checking charges and electrical field problems?

Double checking charges and electrical field problems have real-life applications in various fields such as electrical engineering, physics, and chemistry. For example, in electrical engineering, double checking can help ensure the proper functioning of electronic devices and circuits. In physics, it can aid in the understanding and prediction of the behavior of charged particles in different systems. In chemistry, it can help determine the charges of ions in chemical reactions and their effects on the overall system.

Similar threads

  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
9
Views
252
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
10
Views
162
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
800
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
782
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
17
Views
395
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
529
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
14
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
137
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
694
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
26
Views
569
Back
Top