John Hagelin's Research: M-Effect and DC/MD

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In summary: In summary, the author claims that his research shows that meditation can have a positive impact on crime rates in Washington DC. However, there are many doubts about the validity of his findings.
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http://www.mum.edu/m_effect/dc_md.html

The primary author seems to have some pretty impressive scientific credentials (if Wikipedia is to be trusted).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_HagelinAnyone know anything about this?
 
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"Recently, Hagelin participated in the What the Bleep Do We Know, [4] an independent film released in 2004, and winner of five film awards. [5]"

"In 1987 and 1989, Hagelin published two papers on the relationship between physics and consciousness.[4] These papers discuss the Vedic understanding of consciousness as a field and compare it with theories of the unified field derived by modern physics. Hagelin argues that the most parsimonious explanation for these two fields having almost identical properties is that they are, in fact, one and the same.[5]"

...Sounds really fishy to me.

"In 1994, Hagelin was awarded the Ig Nobel Prize, an annual award given for achievements that “first make people laugh and then make them think." The award was given for the experimental conclusions drawn from the Washington, D.C. study. Although noted as an award for research that can’t or shouldn’t be replicated[11], Hagelin’s study was a replication of several such studies, suggesting that the study did not meet the criteria for the award.[12]"

Sounds like other people think it's fishy too :P
 
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Have a look at chart 2 in this document:

http://www.leicestershire.gov.uk/hinckley_3.1_crimesummary.pdf

You will see how crime is fluctuating on a monthly average basis.
The weekly fluctuations should be twice large.

Therefore, it is reasonnable to think that the five points data from this Hagelin are just a favorable sample in noisy data.

To go further, it would be good to look at the statistics over at least 52 weeks and possibly for many years.
Can we exclude a systematic drop of crime during the five first weeks of the year? My guess is the opposite.
It would be interresting also to think about how an experiment could be conducted and evaluated to test significantly for an impact on crime. My guess is that a correlation can be established only if the experiment is reproduced several times on randomy-choosen periods.
 
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hedons said:
http://www.mum.edu/m_effect/dc_md.html

The primary author seems to have some pretty impressive scientific credentials (if Wikipedia is to be trusted).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin


Anyone know anything about this?
I know that Hagelin is considered a bit of a crackpot.

gabee said:
"Recently, Hagelin participated in the What the Bleep Do We Know, [4] an independent film released in 2004, and winner of five film awards. [5]"
"What the bleep" is definitely a crackpot film and discussion of it isn't even allowed here anymore.

Crime statistics for Washington DC

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htm

http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1239,q,547256,mpdcNav_GID,1556.asp
 
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Bob Park did a bit on this in "Voodoo Science". Simply put, the data was cooked (or just plain fasified, depending on your point of view). It is meaningless. By most reasonable peoples' estimations, those were two unusually bad months for violent crime in DC. Murders, for example, were up. Besides playing with the definition of "violent crime" and picking and choosing which crimes to use, the guy added correction factors for everything he could think of to manipulate the data. One thing he did was to say that the weather hurt the data, so he added a correction factor for it.

...found a link to it online: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-67691836.html
At the end of the demonstration period, Hagelin promised that over the coming year the results would be carefully analyzed according to strict scientific principles. As promised, he was back in Washington a year later with a 55-page report. It was a clinic in data manipulation. Smiling his unworldly smile, Hagelin announced that during the period of the experiment their analysis showed a significant reduction in psychiatric emergency calls, fewer complaints against the police, and an increase in public approval of President Clinton--all consistent with the hypothesis that a coherence-creating group of TM experts can relieve social stress and reverse negative social trends.

More significantly, he said, violent crime in the city had been reduced by a remarkable 18 percent. "An 18 percent reduction compared to what?" asked a puzzled reporter for the Washington Post, no doubt recalling the previous summers dreadful murder rampage. Compared to what it would have been if the meditators had not been meditating, Hagelin explained patiently. "But how could you know what the rate would have been?" the reporter persisted. That had been arrived at, Hagelin responded with just a trace of irritation, by means of a "scientifically rigorous time-series analysis" that included not only crime data, but such factors as weather and fluctuations in Earth's magnetic field.
One other thing:
The primary author seems to have some pretty impressive scientific credentials (if Wikipedia is to be trusted).
Actually, to me it reads like someone who had some serious potential, but suffered a short-circuited in his brain. The jump from SLAC to the ficticious "Maharishi International University" is not one calculated to be career-enhancing for a scientist.
 
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Anyone from crackpot films such as "What The Bleep Do We Know?" should be ignored and not taken seriously.
 
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1. What is the M-Effect and how does John Hagelin's research relate to it?

The M-Effect, also known as the Maharishi Effect, is a phenomenon where a small percentage of a population practicing Transcendental Meditation (TM) can positively influence the behavior and well-being of the entire population. John Hagelin's research has focused on studying the effects of TM on various social and economic indicators, such as crime rates and economic growth, and how it can potentially create a more peaceful and prosperous society.

2. How does TM differ from other forms of meditation?

TM is a type of meditation that involves sitting comfortably with eyes closed for 20 minutes, twice a day, while silently repeating a mantra. Unlike other forms of meditation, TM does not involve concentration, contemplation, or control of the mind. Instead, it allows the mind to naturally settle into a state of deep rest and relaxation, leading to profound physical, mental, and emotional benefits.

3. What is the DC/MD model and how does it relate to John Hagelin's research?

The DC/MD model, also known as the Double Compartment Metaplasticity model, is a neurophysiological model proposed by John Hagelin to explain the effects of TM on the brain. This model suggests that TM creates a state of restful alertness, which enhances the brain's ability to adapt and change, leading to increased coherence and improved brain functioning.

4. What evidence supports John Hagelin's research on the M-Effect and DC/MD model?

There have been numerous studies conducted on the effects of TM and the M-Effect, including a meta-analysis of 42 independent studies that found a significant decrease in crime rates and improved social indicators in areas where TM was practiced. Additionally, neuroimaging studies have shown changes in brain functioning and structure in individuals who practice TM. However, more research is still needed to fully understand the mechanisms behind the M-Effect and DC/MD model.

5. How can the findings of John Hagelin's research be applied in real-world settings?

The findings of John Hagelin's research have the potential to be applied in various real-world settings, such as schools, businesses, and communities, to improve overall well-being and decrease negative behaviors. Some organizations have already implemented TM programs for their employees and have seen positive results in terms of increased productivity, reduced stress, and improved relationships. However, more research and implementation strategies are needed to fully utilize the potential of TM and the M-Effect in society.

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