Can Logarithms Simplify Exponential Equations?

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In summary: They are used to simplify logarithmic expressions and make them easier to work with. Basically, they are rules that tell you how to manipulate logarithms in certain situations. For example, the rule you mentioned above is called the Product Rule and it tells us that when we multiply two numbers inside a logarithm, we can separate them into two separate logarithms, each with one of the numbers. This makes it easier to solve the problem or simplify the expression. There are other rules, such as the Quotient Rule and Power Rule, that help with dividing and raising logarithms to powers. It's important to understand these rules in order to work with logarithms effectively. I hope this helps.
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IS there a way to find x if given:

3^x - 3^(x-1) = 1000


I tried to take log [3^x - 3^(x-1)]/log[3] = log1000/log3

but then, x-x-1 = ...
 
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well, I've never done logarithms really, but I figured out how to do this


to break it down it goes like this

(3*3*3*3...*3*3) - (3*3*3*3..*3) = 1000

so therefore 1 less 3 is multiplied in the second part...heres a simple example so you can see the pattern

(5*5*5*5) - (5*5*5) = (5*5*5)*(5-1)

therefore we can say in general that this means

N^m - N^(m-1) = (N^(m-1))*(N-1)

now instead of the left side of the equation above, we use the right side, and solve for x

(3^(x-1))*(3-1) = 1000
3^(x-1) = 1000/(3-1)
3^(x-1) = 500
log (3^(x-1)) = log (500)
(x-1)(log 3) = log (500)
x-1 = log (500)/log (3)
x = [log (500)/log (3)] + 1

and voila, you have x...

another way of looking at this is that since you are subtracting something with one less *3, then 3^x : 3^(x-1) is 3:1. 3-1=2, so 2:1000. This means that 3:1500 and 1:500. Therefore 3^x = 1500 and x^(x-1) = 500

I hope this helps
 
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You can use the properties of exponents to factor your inital expression.

[tex] 3^x - 3^{(x-1)}=1000 [/tex]
[tex]3^x -3^x 3^{-1}=1000 [/tex]
[tex]3^x(1 - 3^{-1})=1000[/tex]
[tex]3^x= 1500[/tex]
[tex]ln(3^x)= ln 1500 [/tex]
[tex]x ln 3= ln 1500 [/tex]
[tex] x = \frac {ln 1500} {ln 3} [/tex]

I'll leave it to the reader to show that the 2 results are the same.
 
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another solution:
instead of factoring 3^x, factor out 3^x-1
(3^x)-{3(x-1)}=1000
{3^(x-1)}[3-1]=1000
{3^(x-1)}2=1000
{3^(x-1)}=500
log{3^(x-1)}=log(500)
(x-1)log3=log500
x=[(log500)/(log3)]+1
 
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Warr said:
well, I've never done logarithms really, but I figured out how to do this


to break it down it goes like this

(3*3*3*3...*3*3) - (3*3*3*3..*3) = 1000

so therefore 1 less 3 is multiplied in the second part...heres a simple example so you can see the pattern

(5*5*5*5) - (5*5*5) = (5*5*5)*(5-1)

therefore we can say in general that this means

N^m - N^(m-1) = (N^(m-1))*(N-1)

now instead of the left side of the equation above, we use the right side, and solve for x

(3^(x-1))*(3-1) = 1000
3^(x-1) = 1000/(3-1)
3^(x-1) = 500
log (3^(x-1)) = log (500)
(x-1)(log 3) = log (500)
x-1 = log (500)/log (3)
x = [log (500)/log (3)] + 1

and voila, you have x...

another way of looking at this is that since you are subtracting something with one less *3, then 3^x : 3^(x-1) is 3:1. 3-1=2, so 2:1000. This means that 3:1500 and 1:500. Therefore 3^x = 1500 and x^(x-1) = 500

I hope this helps
How can I understand the logarithms requirements in flowcharts? Easily please, I am mad about a situation with a proffesor.
 
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evagriselda said:
How can I understand the logarithms requirements in flowcharts? Easily please, I am mad about a situation with a proffesor.
u mean something like

log (a*b) = log a + log b?

they are called Log Rules or Log Properties.
 

1. What are logarithms?

Logarithms are mathematical functions that represent the relationship between the multiplication and division of numbers. They are the inverse of exponential functions and help to solve equations involving exponents.

2. How do I solve logarithmic equations?

To solve logarithmic equations, you can use the rules of logarithms, such as the product, quotient, and power rules. You can also use the properties of logarithms, such as log a base b = log c base b + log d base b.

3. Why are logarithms useful?

Logarithms have many practical applications in fields such as science, engineering, and finance. They can help to simplify complex calculations, convert between exponential and logarithmic forms, and solve exponential growth and decay problems.

4. What is the difference between natural logarithms and common logarithms?

Common logarithms have a base of 10, while natural logarithms have a base of e, the mathematical constant approximately equal to 2.71828. Natural logarithms are often used in calculus and higher-level mathematics, while common logarithms are more commonly used in practical applications.

5. Can logarithms be negative?

Yes, logarithms can be negative. A negative logarithm indicates that the base number is between 0 and 1. For example, log base 2 of 0.5 is equal to -1. This can be useful in solving equations involving negative exponents.

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