Centroids Simplifying by symmetry

In summary, when dealing with 3D shapes, simplifying the problem using symmetry can be achieved by identifying if the shape is symmetric along any axis. For example, a sphere is symmetric along any axis, meaning the centroid must be in the middle. Similarly, a cone sitting on the xy plane with its pointy end pointing up the z axis is symmetric across the z axis, allowing for the centroid to be easily calculated by only considering the distance along that axis. This understanding of symmetry is sufficient, although it may not be the official definition.
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SpartanG345
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If you have a 3d shape how do you simplify the problem using symmetry.

eg with a sphere is symmetric along any axis therefore the centroid must be in the middle of it

eg2 A cone sitting on the xy plane, where the pointy bit is points up the z axis.
-nb it is sitting on point (0,0,0) where the circular crossection lines on the xy plane at z = 0
with a centre at (0,0)

you can intuitively see that the centroid must have an x coordinate of 0 and a y coordinate of 0 and there some random number for the z coordinate.

where my understanding of symmetry is if a shape can be rotated about an axis and look the same then it is symmetric... this many not the be official definition though

it seems to me that if a shape is symmetric across an axis, only a distance along that axis will need to be calculated to get the centroid. Is this right?
 
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Hi SpartanG345! :wink:
SpartanG345 said:
… where my understanding of symmetry is if a shape can be rotated about an axis and look the same then it is symmetric... this many not the be official definition though

It's good enough! :smile:
it seems to me that if a shape is symmetric across an axis, only a distance along that axis will need to be calculated to get the centroid. Is this right?

("symmetric about an axis")

Yup, that's completely right! :biggrin:
 
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Yes, you are correct. Symmetry can be a very useful tool for simplifying problems in science, particularly in geometry and physics. In the case of finding the centroid of a 3D shape, if the shape is symmetric along any axis, then the centroid must lie on that axis. This means that we only need to calculate the distance along that axis to determine the centroid, rather than having to calculate the centroid for the entire shape.

In the example of a sphere, as you mentioned, it is symmetric along any axis, so the centroid must be located at the center of the sphere. This makes it much simpler to calculate the centroid, as we only need to know the radius of the sphere.

Similarly, in the example of a cone, if it is symmetric along the z-axis, then the centroid must have an x and y coordinate of 0, and we only need to calculate the z coordinate.

Your understanding of symmetry is correct - if a shape can be rotated about an axis and still look the same, then it is symmetric. This can be a very useful concept in scientific research, as it allows us to simplify complex problems and focus on specific aspects of a shape or object.
 

What is "Centroids Simplifying by symmetry"?

Centroids simplifying by symmetry is a technique used in mathematics and physics to find the center of mass of an object or system by taking advantage of its symmetrical properties.

How does "Centroids Simplifying by symmetry" work?

The process involves identifying the symmetry of the object or system and using it to simplify the calculation of the centroid. This is done by breaking down the object or system into smaller, symmetrical components and then finding the centroid of each component. The overall centroid is then determined by taking the weighted average of the individual centroids.

What are the benefits of using "Centroids Simplifying by symmetry"?

Using this technique can significantly reduce the time and effort required to calculate the centroid of a complex object or system. It also allows for a more accurate determination of the centroid, as the symmetry of the object or system ensures that the calculated value is more representative of the true center of mass.

When is "Centroids Simplifying by symmetry" most commonly used?

This technique is commonly used in engineering and physics, particularly in the design and analysis of structures and systems. It is also used in mathematics and geometry to solve problems involving centroids of geometric shapes.

Are there any limitations to "Centroids Simplifying by symmetry"?

While this technique can be very useful in simplifying the calculation of centroids, it can only be applied to objects or systems with symmetrical properties. Additionally, it may not be suitable for objects or systems with irregular or non-uniform shapes.

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