Satisfies Killing equation, but not a Killing field?

  • Thread starter bcrowell
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Field
In summary: Therefore, the cone cannot be considered a differentiable manifold. This is because the mapping between the plane and the cone is not a diffeomorphism at the tip, making the tip excluded from the cone. This raises the question of whether the Killing equation can still be satisfied at the tip of the cone, and if extending the cone to a double cone would allow for smooth passage of orbits of a Killing vector through the tip. Overall, the cone's intrinsic geometrical properties and its special role at the tip demonstrate a violation of translational symmetry. In summary, the cone has the same local geometrical properties as a plane, but its intrinsic properties are different. This raises questions about the validity of the Killing equation at the tip of the
  • #1
bcrowell
Staff Emeritus
Science Advisor
Insights Author
Gold Member
6,724
429
A cone has all the same local geometrical properties as a plane, so if you take a piece of graph paper and form it into a cone, [itex]\partial_x[/itex] and [itex]\partial_y[/itex] still satisfy the Killing equation. On the other hand, the cone has intrinsic geometrical properties that are different from those of the plane, e.g., parallel transport around a loop enclosing the tip will cause a vector to rotate. This singles out the tip and gives it a special geometrical role, which is clearly not consistent with translational symmetry. Does this mean that we can have a field that satisfies the Killing equation without being a Killing vector, or is the Killing equation violated at the tip of the cone? Does it matter if you extend the cone to make a double cone, so that orbits of a Killing vector can pass smoothly through the tip?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
I think due to topological reasons, [tex]\partial_x[/tex] is no longer a global Killing field, i.e. it doesn't join up at the cut of the cone.

The mapping between the plane and the cone fails to be a diffeomorphism at the tip because it's not smooth. The tip must be excluded from the cone for the cone to form a differentiable manifold.

Feel free to correct me as I'm not entirely familiar with these issues.
 
  • #3
Thanks, petergreat, that's very helpful!
 
  • #4
petergreat said:
I think due to topological reasons, [tex]\partial_x[/tex] is no longer a global Killing field, i.e. it doesn't join up at the cut of the cone.

Due to topological reasons, not only is [tex]\partial_x[/tex] not a global Killing field, [tex]\partial_x[/tex] is not a smooth global vector field.
 

1. What is the Killing equation and why is it important?

The Killing equation is a mathematical equation used in differential geometry to determine whether a vector field is a Killing field. It is important because it helps identify symmetries in a manifold, which can be used to solve problems in physics and other fields.

2. How does a vector field satisfy the Killing equation?

A vector field satisfies the Killing equation if its Lie derivative with respect to the metric tensor is equal to zero. This means that the vector field preserves the metric, or in other words, it is a symmetry of the manifold.

3. What does it mean if a vector field satisfies the Killing equation, but is not a Killing field?

If a vector field satisfies the Killing equation, but is not a Killing field, it means that it does not preserve the metric tensor. This could be due to the vector field having singular points or not satisfying the boundary conditions.

4. Can a vector field be a Killing field in one manifold but not in another?

Yes, a vector field can be a Killing field in one manifold but not in another. This is because the Killing equation depends on the specific metric tensor of the manifold, so a vector field that satisfies the equation in one manifold may not satisfy it in another with a different metric.

5. How are Killing fields used in physics?

Killing fields are used in physics to solve problems involving symmetries. For example, they can be used to find conserved quantities in a system, such as energy or momentum. They are also important in general relativity, where they represent the symmetries of spacetime.

Similar threads

  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
32
Views
1K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
31
Views
3K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
23
Views
3K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • Classical Physics
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
2
Views
3K
Back
Top