Unraveling the Mystery of Symmetry Groups in Physics

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of symmetry groups to represent particles in physics. The Poincare group, consisting of translations and Lorentz transformations, is used to classify elementary particles according to irreducible representations based on their mass and spin. The spin representations can be determined by finding the subgroup of SO(3) that leaves a point on a two-sheeted hyperboloid invariant. The standard way to find these representations is through the infinitesimal method of finding the Lie algebra representation and then exponentiating it. This results in a projective representation of SU(2) for odd numbers and an actual representation of SO(3) for even numbers.
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Dreak
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Hello,

PF have helped me a lot understanding a lot of important things in physics, I hope you guys can help me with this too :).

I have problems understand the symmetry groups.

I know there are groups like SU(2), O(3).. etc. But I have no idea how they represent certain particles.So particles are characterized by spin (0, 1, 1/2...) at which the spin of a particle gets represented by the SO(3) subgroup which 'forms' the corresponding field.

But
A) Where does 'SO(3)' comes from?

B) Each group represents a certain spin; for example: for spin 1/2. We need to rotate over 720° to get the 'same' particle (can't find the exact English term right now :X). But how do I know which rotation corresponds to which spin?

C) How does this all connect to symmetry breaking?
 
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The elementary particles can be classified according to space-time isometry group representations. In case of the Minkovsky space-time it's the Poincare group: translations and Lorentz transformations. This translations can be thought of as transitions to another reference systems. If a particle is thought of as elementary it's reasonable to expect that a corresponding representation is "in one piece" -- irreducible. So the classification of elementary particles comes to classification of irreducible representations.

For the Poincare group they are determined by two numbers(excluding "an infinite/continuous spin" representations and mixed symmetry cases(the latter corresponds to several "spin numbers"; they arise if space-time dimension if more than four)). One of them changes smoothly. It's mass(a square of mass, to be precise). There are two different cases: m = 0 and m > 0. Another one changes discretely. We call it spin.

Why 0, 1/2, 1, ...? Because it can be shown that the representation to be irreducible must be the functions defined on an orbit of special orthochronous Lorentz subgroup. In the simplest massive case they are poles(one of two) of a two sheeted hyperboloid p^2 = p0^2 - p1^2 - p2^2 - p3^2 = m^2. The action of an aforementioned Lorentz subgroup is transitive of the pole. So we have to describe a representation of a subgroup which leaves some point invariant. It's easy to see(in a coordinate system where the point have coordinates (m, 0, 0, 0)) that this subgroup is SO(3)(O(3) to be precise, but let's forget about it right now).

So here comes SO(3). The hard problem(to find irreducible representation of an non-compact group) have been reduced to the easy one(rep of a compact -- SO(3)). The standard way is an infinitesimal way -- to find a Lie algebra representation and then exponentiate it to get a corresponding group representation. so(3) algebra irreps are classified by one non-negative integer number. But only a half of them(even ones) corresponds to some irreps of SO(3)(and exhaust them). Odd numbers correspond to spin representations. Roughly speaking, their exponentiations are not SO(3) representations(but can be said that they're projective ones) but it's universal covering. Which happens to be SU(2).
 
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Dreak, are you talking about spin of particles according to SU(2) representations? Or are you talking about other symmetry groups like isospin, color, ... as well?
 

1. What are symmetry groups in physics?

Symmetry groups in physics refer to the mathematical concept of groups that describe the symmetries of a physical system. These groups can include rotations, translations, reflections, and other transformations that leave the system unchanged.

2. Why are symmetry groups important in physics?

Symmetry groups are important in physics because they help us understand the underlying structure and laws of the universe. They allow us to make predictions and calculations about physical phenomena and can also reveal fundamental principles and relationships in nature.

3. How are symmetry groups applied in physics?

Symmetry groups are applied in physics in various ways, such as in the study of particles and fields, the analysis of crystal structures, and the formulation of physical theories. They can also be used to classify and categorize different physical systems based on their symmetries.

4. What is the relationship between symmetry groups and conservation laws?

Symmetry groups and conservation laws are closely related in physics. In fact, Noether's theorem states that for every continuous symmetry of a physical system, there is a corresponding conservation law. This means that the symmetries of a system can help us determine which physical quantities are conserved.

5. How do symmetry groups impact our understanding of the universe?

Symmetry groups play a crucial role in our understanding of the universe. They provide a framework for describing and analyzing physical phenomena, and they also reveal fundamental principles and relationships that govern the behavior of matter and energy. By studying symmetry groups, we can gain a deeper understanding of the laws of nature and how the universe works.

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