GUT-SUSY SU(5) is falsified, does SO(10) SUSY predict superpartner masses & proton de

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential falsification of non-SUSY GUTs by proton decay experiments and how the inclusion of SUSY could affect the predictions for proton half-life and superpartner masses at the LHC. It also mentions the possibility of using discrete R symmetries to evade proton decay limits. The conversation also briefly touches on the E6SSM and its relationship to string theory. The lecturer also mentions the use of Dynkin diagrams to understand the relationships between different GUT theories.
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bananan
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Since non-SUSY GUT's are in danger of falsification by proton decay experiments, SUSY pushes up the half-lives of protons but even so,

GUT-SUSY SU(5) is falsified by proton decay experiments,

does SO(10) SUSY predict superpartner masses for LHC to see or observe (or alternatively, if LHC does not see superpartners at its energy scales at LHC) & proton decay half-life, how would this effect SO(10) SUSY GUT?

I heard it claimed that SO(10) SUSY GUT predicts proton half-life of 10^36 and superpartners such as the neutrilino around 200-1000GEV (within LHC luminosity) but are there any ARVIX papers to this effect?

Presumably, should experiments rule out SO(10) SUSY GUT, then string theory is pretty much ruled out as well.
 
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The funny thing here is, were not for the attemps to falsify GUT theories, we had not got the neutrino oscillation data.
 
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Severian said:
I rather like the E6SSM which is a GUT based on E6: See http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0510419 and http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0511256

We got a nice lecture on E6 yesterday, and there is not need of string-inspiration except than the dimension 26+1 (call it bosonic M-theory if you wish) appears very naturally; it is also mentioned in this abstract. Lecturer protested about putting E4, E5, E6 in the same bag -very different things, it seems- and told that the best notation for the Dynkin diagrams was teh one coming... from Bourbaki!
 
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Arrivero can you explain that please?

The usual neat observation with Dynkin diagrams is that the standard model --> SU(5) --> SO(10) --> E6 -->E7 --> E8 simply by performing the same truncation on the legs of the diagrams.

To go backwards from E6 to E5..., its a different trick/operation. Is this what your lecturer was talking about?

(And yes btw discrete R symmetries can and do evade proton decay bounds, even in SymSU(5) as does nonminimal field content and so forth as well as higher order operators.. A mess to figure out)
 

What is GUT-SUSY SU(5) and how is it falsified?

GUT-SUSY SU(5) is a type of Grand Unified Theory (GUT) that combines Supersymmetry (SUSY) with the SU(5) gauge group. It proposes that all known particles in the Standard Model have heavier superpartner particles, which would help explain the hierarchy problem in particle physics. However, this theory has been falsified by experimental data, including the lack of evidence for superpartner particles at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

Does SO(10) SUSY predict superpartner masses?

Yes, SO(10) SUSY is a type of GUT that also incorporates Supersymmetry and the SO(10) gauge group. It predicts that superpartner particles should have masses in the range of 100-1000 GeV, which is within the capabilities of the LHC to detect. However, experimental data has not yet confirmed these predictions.

Does SO(10) SUSY predict the mass of the proton?

SO(10) SUSY does not directly predict the mass of the proton, as it is not a fundamental particle in this theory. However, it does provide a framework for understanding the hierarchy of particle masses and could potentially contribute to our understanding of the proton's mass through its predictions for superpartner particles.

What is the significance of proton decay in relation to GUT-SUSY theories?

Proton decay is a predicted phenomenon in many GUT-SUSY theories, including SO(10) SUSY. It would provide evidence for the unification of the fundamental forces and particles, as well as for the existence of superpartner particles. However, there has been no experimental confirmation of proton decay so far, which has cast doubt on the validity of these theories.

What are the implications for particle physics if GUT-SUSY theories are falsified?

If GUT-SUSY theories, including SO(10) SUSY, are falsified by experimental data, it would mean that our current understanding of the fundamental forces and particles is incomplete. It would also call into question the concept of Supersymmetry and the idea of unifying all forces into a single theory. This would require a reassessment of the Standard Model and the search for new theories that can better explain the complexities of the universe.

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