What is the correct radius of the plane's loop?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the radius of a plane's loop and the conflicting calculations between using the equations Ac=v^2/r and F=ma. Ultimately, it is determined that using the equation F=mv^2/R is the correct way to calculate the radius, resulting in a radius of 1469.39 meters. The possibility of a loop with a radius of 19.36 meters is dismissed as not plausible.
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A pilot goes into a loop...

A 75 kg pilot goes into a loop. At the top of the loop, where the plane is completely upside down for an instant, the pilot hangs freely in the seat and does not push against the seat belt. The airspeed indicator reads 120m/s. What is the radius of the planes loop?


I did Ac=v^2/r

substitute 9.8 for ac and 120 for v, so...

9.8=120^2/r

and when you do that, the radius is 1469.39 m.


My friend disagrees and says the loop should only be 19.36 meters. He used F=ma, then put that into the equation, to get 19.36.


Can someone say who did it right?
 
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First of all. Which answer is more plausible. Surely I don't see an airplane make a loop with a radius of 19.36 meters.

But more rigorously. The gravitational force on the pilot equals the centrifugal force, since he doesn't push against the seat. So you're right.
 
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Thank you, and yes, I had thought of the airplane making a 19m loop. Not going to happen.
 
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You could still use F = ma, I don't know why you would, but you'd just you'd have to use it properly.

[tex]F = ma[/tex]
[tex]F = \frac{mv^2}{R}[/tex]
[tex]mg = \frac{mv^2}{R}[/tex]
[tex]g = \frac{v^2}{R}[/tex]
[tex]9.8 = \frac{120^2}{R}[/tex]
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1. What is a loop in aviation?

A loop, also known as a vertical or aerobatic loop, is a maneuver performed by a pilot where the aircraft flies in a complete 360-degree circle in a vertical plane. This maneuver involves a combination of pitch and roll movements to create a continuous loop in the air.

2. How is a loop performed by a pilot?

To perform a loop, the pilot must first gain enough airspeed and altitude to safely execute the maneuver. Then, the pilot pulls back on the control stick to pitch the aircraft up, while simultaneously applying full power. This creates a vertical climb that then turns into a dive as the aircraft reaches the top of the loop. The pilot then pulls back on the control stick to level out the aircraft and complete the loop.

3. What are the risks involved in performing a loop?

The main risk involved in performing a loop is the potential for the aircraft to stall or lose control. If the pilot does not have enough airspeed or altitude, the aircraft may not have enough energy to complete the loop and could potentially crash. Additionally, the pilot must be careful not to over-stress the aircraft, as loops can put a lot of strain on the airframe.

4. What type of aircraft can perform a loop?

Most types of aircraft can perform a loop, but it is more commonly seen in aerobatic or high-performance military aircraft. The size and weight of the aircraft, as well as its power and maneuverability, play a significant role in its ability to safely perform a loop.

5. Are pilots trained to perform loops?

Yes, pilots who are trained in aerobatics or fly high-performance aircraft are typically taught how to safely perform loops. These pilots undergo extensive training and practice to ensure they have the necessary skills and knowledge to execute the maneuver safely and effectively.

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