Conservation Principle Related to Expanding Space?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of conservation principles applied to the expanding universe since the Big Bang. It is suggested that in a dust-filled universe, energy is conserved but in a universe with radiation, energy is not conserved due to radiation pressure. The idea of a zero energy universe is also mentioned, where positive and negative energy balances out to a critical density universe. Ultimately, there are many models of the universe with varying beliefs on energy conservation.
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jrdev
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Could someone comment on this:

Since space has been expanding since the Big Bang, does this mean there is a conservation principle such that some other property of the universe must be declining? If so, what is that principle and what would be declining?

Thanks.
 
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Welcome to Physics Forums jrdev!

1) Pick your theory, and ye shall be answered!
2) If it's GR, then the folk in the SR&GR section of PF will surely give you an answer in a Planck second! (so I'm moving this thread there).
 
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If energy is conserved, and space is expanding, than energy density is constantly decreasing (same amount of stuff spread out into a bigger space).

But energy is not conserved in an expanding universe, so oh well.
 
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Energy-momentum is conserved in a GR understanding of the universe. If there is no pressure (a dust filled universe) then energy is conserved as measured in the cosmological comoving frame of reference.

The energy of the CMB is not conserved in such a universe as radiation pressure is equal to one third the radiation density.c2.
Garth
 
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In the zero energy universe, first suggested by Ed Tryon about 50 years ago, the positive energy is always balanced by the negative potential energy. This leads to a critical density universe, that is, the gravitational potential GM/r is always equal to the Kinetic Energy (1/2M)(v^2). There are however literally hundreds of models of the universe - in some energy is conserved - in others it is not.
 

1. What is the conservation principle related to expanding space?

The conservation principle related to expanding space is a fundamental concept in cosmology that states that the total amount of energy and matter in the universe remains constant over time, even as the universe expands. This principle is based on the law of conservation of energy and mass, which states that energy and mass cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.

2. Why is the conservation principle related to expanding space important?

This principle is important because it helps us understand the dynamics of the universe and how it has evolved over time. It also provides a framework for studying the distribution and behavior of matter and energy in the universe.

3. How does the conservation principle relate to the expansion of the universe?

The conservation principle is closely related to the expansion of the universe. As the universe expands, the space between galaxies and other objects increases, but the total amount of energy and matter remains the same. This means that the density of matter and energy decreases as the universe expands.

4. Does the conservation principle apply to dark energy and dark matter?

Yes, the conservation principle applies to both dark energy and dark matter. While these substances are not directly observable, they are thought to make up a large portion of the universe's total energy and matter. Therefore, the conservation principle still holds true for their total amount in the universe.

5. Are there any exceptions to the conservation principle related to expanding space?

There are some exceptions to the conservation principle related to expanding space, such as the creation of matter and energy during the Big Bang and the conversion of matter into energy in certain cosmological processes. However, these exceptions do not violate the overall principle, as the total amount of energy and matter in the universe remains constant.

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