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Placebos Work In the Absence of Deception

 
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Jul3-12, 12:49 AM   #18
 

Placebos Work In the Absence of Deception


Where can I buy placebos? Do they come in different doses? If they'll work on IBS without active ingredients I'll be they'll work on all kinds of ailments.

Actually, this might vindicate homeopathy where there's maybe 1 molecule of an active ingredient if you're lucky.
Jul3-12, 01:14 AM   #19
 
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Where can I buy placebos? Do they come in different doses? If they'll work on IBS without active ingredients I'll be they'll work on all kinds of ailments.

Actually, this might vindicate homeopathy where there's maybe 1 molecule of an active ingredient if you're lucky.
This site sells "Universal Placebos". $20 a bottle:

http://www.placebo.com.au/
Jul3-12, 01:51 AM   #20
 
Interesting: I just discovered this same test of non-deceptive placebo administration was carried out on "neurotics" in the 1960's:

http://www.leecrandallparkmd.net/res.../placebo1.html

They seem to have done a more thorough job of telling the patients they would just be getting sugar pills, but the confident attitude of the doctors that the pills would work, and their inability to understand why they would be given inactive pills, lead some to conclude they were being deceived about them being sugar:

The patient reported there was clear evidence he was receiving a drug. Not only did he improve markedly more than on any other pill, but he noted side-reactions 30 minutes to one hour after each dose, consisting of dry mouth, along with butterflies in the abdominal area, lasting about one hour. He felt that perhaps the doctor had told him he was receiving placebo so that he would think that he was helping himself, when actually the drug was the factor.
At the return visit the patient entered the interview room saying, "They're not sugar pills." Upon questioning about this, she stated, "Because they worked." She also reported that this medicine was somewhat better than the other medicines she had received for emotional symptoms. When asked why the doctor would prescribe a drug and describe it as placebo, she stated, "Maybe he wanted to see how I reacted to it. I don't know about psychiatrists, I've never been around them. I've been around a lot of doctors, 22 in the last seven years, but not psychiatrists."
Other patients vascillated over whether they were getting placebos or not:

Although it was clearly explained that there was no medicine of any sort in the capsules, the patient's last question in the initial interview was whether the medication would make her too drowsy. At the time of her final appointment, the patient reported she was markedly improved, feeling better than she had in over 20 years. She stated that although she believed she had been receiving placebo, she had noted that the contents of the capsules tasted sweet. The contents were actually tasteless.
Initially, he reported that there was essentially no improvement, stating that only ineffectual "hypochondriacs" are influenced by such pills. When questioned about specific symptoms, he became aware that he was less irritable, with fewer temper outbursts; lie pointed out that improvement had actually started even before he came to see us. He subsequently thought of two further explanations for improvement during the treatment week. The first was that he had helped himself. Also, he stated the pills might well contain a "mild tranquilizer," commenting that the doctor could have told him that they were placebo simply to make sure that he would take them.
When placebo was introduced, she asked, "Why would it help, because for people, each time they take a pill, it's a symbol or something of someone caring about you, thinking about you three or four times a day?" When she returned for the second visit, the patient reported considerable improvement with regard to her anxious and apprehensive feelings, although she had been able to cut down only slightly on the smoking. She had noted considerable dry mouth during the treatment week, which she attributed to the pills. She felt the pills did not contain medicine in the usual sense, although they probably contained something "like a liniment." "I consider medicine something that will alleviate your symptoms, but this didn't alleviate the symptoms, just the desire to smoke." "Well, it's like these liniments that you rub on, the skin gets hot and makes the pain go." In further discussion, she indicated that the prescription by a psychiatrist of a pill containing nothing to help the anxiety symptoms brought to her awareness the thought that she could help herself. As a result of this, she made a number of changes in her environmental situation, which was quite at variance with her usual passive approach to problems.
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