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Are static models totally static?

 
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Nov21-12, 05:59 AM   #1
 

Are static models totally static?


Hi, I appreciate the basics if static models, but I'm wondering just how static they are. I understand there is no expansion, but is there any element of evolution? (For example, colliding galaxies, collapsing dust clouds, etc.)

Regards,

Noel.
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Nov21-12, 06:23 AM   #2
 
Static doesn't mean no movement. Everything is moving and react to gravitation and quantum effects. No big bang, no expansion, just there.
Nov21-12, 06:43 AM   #3
 
Thanks Jedisshrfu. That's what I figured, but couldn't find confirmation in any of the literature.

Regards,

Noel.
Nov21-12, 09:11 AM   #4
 

Are static models totally static?


Wikipedia has some good info on the model:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_universe
Nov21-12, 09:19 AM   #5
 
Thanks jedishrfu.

Regards,

Noel.
Nov21-12, 10:38 AM   #6
 
What static model are you referring to? There are steady state models such as Hoyles (now discredited model) and more mdoern steady sate models such as steady state eternal inflation. A new static model was pubslihsed a few months ago:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.5550
but I believe all of these models allow for observations of an expanding universe and galaxies colliding etc but perhaps thats now what you are referring to.
Nov21-12, 05:38 PM   #7
 
Thanks for the reply skydivephil. A lot of the arxiv items that I have read lately refer simply "static models" in various contexts. I was pretty sure that this (generally) did not mean completely unchanging ... but I could not find any clarification.

Regards,

Noel.
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