Understanding Arbitrary Constants in Second Order Nonhomogeneous Equations

In summary, the conversation discusses the derivation of an equation from a RLC circuit and the general equation for solving it. It is noted that the general equation includes a third term, k3, which represents a particular solution for the nonhomogeneous equation. The conversation also addresses confusion about the notation and the significance of k3 in the general equation.
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The following equation was derived from a RLC circuit:

[tex]\frac{d^2}{dt^2} (V(t)) + 6 \frac{d}{dt} (V(t)) + 5V(t) = 40[/tex]

Setting up the equation:

[tex]s^2 +6s + 5 = 0[/tex]

yields [tex]s = -1[/tex] and [tex]s = -5[/tex]

Giving me the general equation:

[tex]V(t) = k_{1}e^{-t} + k_{2}e^{-5t}[/tex]

But the general equation shown in the solution is:

[tex]V(t) = k_{1}e^{-t} + k_{2}e^{-5t} + k_{3}[/tex]

It's been a little while since my differential equations class and I'm not sure where the k3 comes from. Is it because the equation is nonhomogeneous and if that's the case will all second order nonhomogeneous equations that equal a constant have similar general equations?
 
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Yes it is because is nonhomogenous, the particular solution for this equation will have been 8. [itex] v(t)_{p} = 8 [/itex]
 
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Shouldn't [itex] k_{3}=8 [/itex] ??

Daniel.
 
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Okay guys I got it, thanks for your help. And yes [tex]k_{3} = 8[/tex]
 
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[tex]V(t) = k_{1}e^{-t} + k_{2}e^{-5t} + k_{3}[/tex]

In my opinion, that is really bad notation! The fact that the same symbol is used for [itex]k_1, k_2, k_3[/itex] implies that they are to be treated the same. In fact, k1 and k2 are arbitrary constants while k3 must be 8.
 

What is the definition of "Second Order Nonhomogeneous"?

Second Order Nonhomogeneous refers to a type of differential equation where the highest order derivative is squared and the equation is not equal to zero. It also includes a non-zero function on the right side of the equation, making it nonhomogeneous.

What is the difference between "Second Order Nonhomogeneous" and "Second Order Homogeneous" equations?

The main difference between the two is that Second Order Homogeneous equations have a zero function on the right side of the equation, making them homogeneous. In contrast, Second Order Nonhomogeneous equations have a non-zero function on the right side, making them nonhomogeneous.

What are some real-world applications of Second Order Nonhomogeneous equations?

Second Order Nonhomogeneous equations are commonly used in physics and engineering to model systems with external forces or inputs. Examples include the motion of a pendulum with air resistance or the oscillations of an electrical circuit with a varying voltage source.

How do you solve a Second Order Nonhomogeneous equation?

The general method for solving Second Order Nonhomogeneous equations is by using the method of undetermined coefficients or variation of parameters. These methods involve finding a particular solution to the nonhomogeneous equation and adding it to the general solution of the corresponding homogeneous equation.

What are the limitations of Second Order Nonhomogeneous equations?

One limitation is that they cannot be solved for every possible nonhomogeneous function on the right side of the equation. Some functions may require more advanced techniques or may not have a closed-form solution at all. Additionally, the solutions to these equations may not always be physically meaningful in certain contexts.

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