Help with an integration by parts problem

In summary, the conversation was about an integration problem involving the function cos(pi*sqrt(t)) divided by sqrt(t). The individual attempted to solve it using integration by parts and a change of variable method, but was unsure of how to approach it. Another individual suggested using a substitution with u = pi(t)^.5, which was later corrected to u = sqrt(t). It was also mentioned that in order for the substitution method to work, the limits of the integral must be changed accordingly. Ultimately, the correct integral was determined to be \int_{1}^{\frac{1}{4}} \frac{\cos \pi t}{t} \; dt.
  • #1
stanners
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integration problem :(

Homework Statement



int from 1 to 1/4 of [cos(pi*sqrt(t))] / sqrt(t) dt


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using integration by parts

used u = cos pi (sqrt(t)) and dv = sqrt(t), but got a really messy number as int of vdu

so I tried u = sqrt t, du = 1/2sqrt(t)
dv = cos pi*sqrt(t) , v = sin pi sqrt(t) * pi/2sqrt(t)


So This doesn't seem right, how would I approach this problem?
 
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  • #2
You want [tex] \int_{1}^{\frac{1}{4}} \frac{\cos \pi \sqrt{t}}{\sqrt{t}} \; dt [/tex]
 
  • #3
Yeah, but integration by parts didn't work, and I don't see how I can use substitution, any help?
 
  • #4
The change of variable method is correct.
Put [itex]u = \sqrt t[/itex]
[itex]2du = \frac{dt}{\sqrt t}[/itex]
Substituting this will simplify the integrand. However, I think the mistake you are making is; you are forgetting to change the limits(1 & 1/4) of the integral. Whenever you make a variable change, the limits change according to the new variable.

Hope this helps...
 
  • #5
multiply numerator and denominator by [tex] \sqrt{t} [/tex]

You get: [tex] \int_{1}^{\frac{1}{4}} \frac{\cos \pi t}{t} \; dt [/tex]
 
  • #6
A substitution should work, try u=pi(t)^.5
 
  • #7
tronter said:
You want
[tex]\int_{1}^{\frac{1}{4}} \frac{\cos \pi \sqrt t}{\sqrt t}dt [/tex]

multiply numerator and denominator by [tex] \sqrt{t} [/tex]

You get: [tex] \int_{1}^{\frac{1}{4}} \frac{\cos \pi t}{t} \; dt [/tex]

Hey, that's wrong . Multiplying [itex]\sqrt t[/itex] in the numerator doesn't change [itex]\cos \pi \sqrt t[/itex] to [itex]\cos \pi t[/itex].
 
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  • #8
trajan22 said:
A substitution should work, try u=pi(t)^.5

Oh wow... haha, yeah.. thanks.

I was using u = cos pi(t)^.5

Bah, thanks.
 

1. What is integration by parts?

Integration by parts is a mathematical technique used to find the integral of a product of two functions. It is often used to simplify complex integrals and is based on the product rule of differentiation.

2. How do I know when to use integration by parts?

You can use integration by parts when you have an integral of a product of two functions, and one of the functions is easily integrable while the other is not. This technique can also be helpful when you have a function that is a product of two or more terms.

3. What are the steps for solving an integration by parts problem?

The steps for solving an integration by parts problem are as follows:
1. Identify the functions u and v' in the integral.
2. Use the product rule to find v, the antiderivative of v'.
3. Use the formula ∫u*v' dx = u*v - ∫v*u' dx to solve the integral.
4. Simplify the resulting integral if necessary.
5. Repeat the process if the integral is not fully solved.

4. Can integration by parts be used for definite integrals?

Yes, integration by parts can be used for definite integrals. After solving the indefinite integral, you can apply the limits of integration to get the final result.

5. Are there any tips for making integration by parts problems easier?

One tip for making integration by parts problems easier is to choose u and v' carefully. It is often helpful to choose u to be the more complicated function, and v' to be the easier function to integrate. Additionally, if the integral becomes more complicated after using integration by parts, you can try using the technique again to simplify it further.

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