Reading a pressure vs enthelpy graph

In summary, the conversation discusses using a pressure vs enthalpy graph to find the enthalpy at a given pressure value. It is mentioned that a state point can be located on the chart with two given values, and that in the saturated area, the degree of saturation also needs to be known. It is also noted that outside the saturation region, pressure and temperature are independent, but inside they are dependent. Finally, it is stated that at least two properties are needed to define everything on the graph.
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Anony-mouse
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ive got a pressure vs enthalpy graph which is based on the data for refrigerant 141b. If I've got a given pressure, and i want to find the enthalpy at that pressure how do i know where to stop when going along horizontally from a given pressure value?
 
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Hi there:

If you know you pressure value, by knowing either temperature, entropy or some other physical value, you should be able to locate your state point on the chart.

With two given values, a state point is defined ...

Thanks,

Gordan
 
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i see, I've got temperature values, but does the state point also depend on whether it is saturation liquid or saturation vapour?
 
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Hi there:

If you are in the saturated are, in addition to pressure and temperature values, you need to know the degree of saturation. It goes from 0 to 1 (no vapor to all vapor) -- this should define your state point. Just read the other state physical values from your chart.

Thanks,

Gordan
 
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anony mouse, you need 2 properties to get all the properties from any such property curve. if its outside the saturation region, P and T are independent. But inside, P and T are dependent, so required states change. But in any case, one needs at least 2 properties to define everything
 

1. What is a pressure vs enthalpy graph?

A pressure vs enthalpy graph is a graphical representation of the relationship between pressure and enthalpy of a substance. It is used to analyze and understand the thermodynamic properties of a substance, particularly in processes such as heating or cooling.

2. How is a pressure vs enthalpy graph useful in scientific research?

A pressure vs enthalpy graph provides valuable information about the thermodynamic behavior of a substance, such as its phase changes, heat capacity, and heat transfer. This information is crucial in understanding and predicting the behavior of substances in various processes, making it a valuable tool in scientific research.

3. What do the axes represent in a pressure vs enthalpy graph?

The vertical axis represents the enthalpy (H) of a substance, which is the total amount of energy in a system. The horizontal axis represents the pressure (P) of the substance, which is the force exerted per unit area. The slope of the graph represents the change in enthalpy with respect to pressure, known as the specific volume (V).

4. How can a pressure vs enthalpy graph be used to determine phase changes?

Phase changes, such as melting or boiling, occur at specific points on a pressure vs enthalpy graph. These points are known as phase transition points and can be identified by the sudden changes in slope on the graph. For example, the boiling point of a substance can be determined by finding the point where the liquid phase changes to the vapor phase.

5. Can a pressure vs enthalpy graph be used to calculate the energy efficiency of a process?

Yes, a pressure vs enthalpy graph can be used to calculate the energy efficiency of a process by analyzing the area under the curve. The area under the curve represents the total amount of energy transferred during the process. By comparing this to the amount of energy input, the energy efficiency can be calculated.

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