Tolerances differences in temperature change

In summary, the conversation discusses the potential changes in tolerance levels for steel and aluminum machined components when they are manufactured in one temperature environment and moved to a different temperature environment. The experts suggest that if the part is at the same temperature as its environment, the tolerances will stay the same. However, if there is an unknown temperature distribution, the part may change shape as it cools. The conversation also mentions that taking large cuts during machining may not affect the tolerances significantly. The average coefficient of expansion for steel is typically between 12 and 15 μm/m · K, which may impact the accuracy of the machining process.
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Does anyone out there know if there are any published studies which have tested the tolerance changes in steel and aluminum machined components when they are manufactured in one (temperature) environment and moved to different (temperature) environment.

Anything would help.

Thanks,
 
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Assuming the part is the same temperature as its environment in each case, moving it from one temperature to another will cause it to shrink or expand according to its coefficient of thermal expansion. Tolerances would essentially stay the same.

If the part has some unknown temperature distribution (say hotter where the machining operation took place) the part will end up slightly changing shape as it cools. how the tolarance changes would be material and geometry dependent, but generally a material with a very low coefficient of thermal expansion (and hopefully a high thermal conductivity) will probably fare better than one with a large CTE and low thermal conductivity.
 
  • #3
What tolerances are you referring to? Are you looking at single parts or an assembly? Ideally, the tolerances on a part don't change due to thermals. Simply the overall size does (like ME already mentioned). Now, if you're talking about stack ups between parts, then those tolerances may change and often do. We use different stack ups based on assembly, high and low temp conditions.

It would help if you explained what you are looking for a bit better, i.e. what is your scenario?
 
  • #4
OK, situation is as follows:

We store raw material in an area about 95 degrees F.
Raw material is loaded into a machine, and machined with coolant.
The final part comes out and is inspected. The area where the part comes out of the machine is about the same 95 degree F atmosphere. Parts are inspected in this location for some critical tolerances.
The part is then transferred to a room which is controlled to about 70 degrees F. The same critical tolerances are inspected as well as a few others.
Parts are then sent out for finishing.
Received back in, inspected, then shipped.

This is not an assembly, piece part only. The material is steel bar.

Thanks,
 
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Unless your machinists are taking huge cuts that build up a very large amount of heat, there should be no issues.
 
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By taking huge cuts, I am guessing that you are suggesting that the part will heat up to a very high temperature, then might have the possibility of being cooled quickly... Yeah, I guess in this situation, it really won't make a difference.

Thanks all...
 
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The Average coefficient of expansion, (μm/m · K, at °C) is typically between 12 and 15,
for the ranges 20 - 100 and 20 - 700 C for carbon and low alloy steels. Cutting which produces most heat is typically not the most accurate. Milling large pieces is usually cooled.
 

1. What are tolerances in relation to temperature change?

Tolerances refer to the acceptable range of deviation from a desired or standard temperature. In other words, it is the amount by which the temperature can vary without causing significant impact or damage.

2. Why is it important to consider tolerances in temperature change?

Understanding and accounting for tolerances is crucial in maintaining the accuracy and reliability of temperature measurements. It also helps prevent costly errors and ensures that equipment or systems are functioning within safe and efficient parameters.

3. How are tolerances determined in temperature change?

Tolerances are determined based on several factors, including the sensitivity of the instruments used for measurement, the type of material being measured, and the intended purpose of the temperature reading. Industry standards and regulations may also play a role in determining tolerances.

4. Can tolerances be adjusted or modified?

In some cases, tolerances can be adjusted or modified to meet specific needs or requirements. However, this should only be done after careful consideration and analysis to ensure that it does not compromise the accuracy or safety of the temperature measurement.

5. How do tolerances impact the validity of temperature data?

Tolerances can impact the validity of temperature data by influencing the accuracy and precision of the measurements. It is important to understand the tolerances involved when interpreting temperature data to ensure that any conclusions drawn are reliable and accurate.

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