Simple question on arithmetic.

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In summary: And no values of a+b when c is strictly negative.In summary, the conversation discusses a mathematical property that occurs when two variables, A and B, add up to 1. The equation can be rearranged to put the constant term on the left and the rest of the terms on the right, resulting in a recognizable form. This property is more likely to occur when the constant term is positive and is impossible when it is negative. It is a simple concept, but one that may be overlooked if not paying attention in math class.
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I've noticed 2 x 0.2 x 0.8 happens to give the same result with 1 - (0.2^2 + 0.8^2).

Can the latter be rearranged to the first? And if yes, can someone direct me to the name of the branch of math that describes this problem? It definitely reminds me of something from high school I didn't pay attention to..
 
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Oh wait, I guess for this question to avoid being meaningless 0.2 and 0.8 should get the symbols A and B, otherwise it could just be 'rearranged' to 0.32.
 
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Hrm, I managed to rearrange it to 1-(A+B)^2 = 0. So that might mean it's a property that ONLY applies when A + B = 1, or at least when that '1' being C is A + B. Am I right?
 
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Or wait, also when (A + B)^2 is C, which is rarer.
 
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So rearrange the equation that way...

2ab = 1 - ( a2 + b2 )

Now rearrange to put the constant term on the left and the rest of the terms on the right...

1 = a2 + 2ab + b2

If you manage to get it in this form, the right hand side is recognizable

1 = (a+b)2

So you can conclude that as long as a and b add to 1 then the relationship that you observed will hold good. The actual a and b that you chose are 0.2 and 0.8. Those do add to 1.

EDIT: It appears that we crossed posts. You have already realized this.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
So rearrange the equation that way...

2ab = 1 - ( a2 + b2 )

Now rearrange to put the constant term on the left and the rest of the terms on the right...

1 = a2 + 2ab + b2

If you manage to get it in this form, the right hand side is recognizable

1 = (a+b)2

So you can conclude that as long as a and b add to 1 then the relationship that you observed will hold good. The actual a and b that you chose are 0.2 and 0.8. Those do add to 1.

Is my additional assessment that also (a+b)2 could be 1 correct? (Or I guess = C if 1 = C there)
 
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so, 2ab=1-a^2-b^2
a^2+b^2+2ab=1
(a+b)^2=1
'Property' applies when a+b=-1 or +1
Not much of a mystery
Mr.E
 
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cdux said:
Or wait, also when (A + B)^2 is C, which is rarer.

Actually twice as likely for C positive and impossible for C negative.

[Although it is sloppy to talk about likelihood rigorously without a probability distribution available]
 
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jbriggs444 said:
Actually twice as likely for C positive and impossible for C negative.

True.

I don't get the first part. Why is it more likely? (even if it's loosely described)

edit: Unless you just mean because it excludes the negatives.
 
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cdux said:
edit: Unless you just mean because it excludes the negatives.

Yes, that's all I was getting at. That there are two values of a+b for which for (a+b)2=c
as long as c is strictly positive.
 

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