First order responce; RC circuit

In summary, the conversation discusses the mathematical process of analyzing a circuit with a voltage source, resistor, and capacitor in series. It is essential to apply a negative sign before integrating, and the integrals to be performed are definite integrals. The constants of integration cancel out, and the final equation is ln((V_s-V_c)/V_s)=-t/(RC). The conversation also touches on the possibility of using the initial charge of the capacitor as the lower limit in this analysis.
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sandy.bridge
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Homework Statement


Assume there is a voltage source in series with a resistor and a capacitor. Thus,
[tex]V_S=i(t)R+v_C(t)=CR\frac{dv_C}{dt}+v_C\rightarrow{}dt/(RC)=dv_C/(V_S-v_C)[/tex]
From this point I understand that one has to apply a negative sign to both sides before integrating, but why is it essential to do this mathematically?
Why can one simply not do
[tex]e^{t/(RC)}e^D=V_S-v_C(t)[/tex] where D is some constant determined by the state of the circuit before?
 
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The integrals to be performed are definite integrals:
[tex] \int_0^{V_c} \frac{1}{V_s - V_c}dV_c = \int_0^t \frac{1}{R C} dt [/tex]
As such the constants of integration cancel out, and you're left with:
[tex] ln(V_s) - ln(V_s - V_c) = \frac{t}{R C} [/tex]
[tex] ln(\frac{V_s - V_c}{V_s}) = -\frac{t}{R C} [/tex]
and so on.
 
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Nevermind, thanks for the help!
 
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@ gneil
My textbook does not analyze it as a definite integral, but it certainly makes sense to do it in that way. Just a few things, when analyzing differential circuits in this way, if the capacitor had an initial charge one would have the initial charge as the lower limit, with the charge on the voltage source being the upper?
 
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sandy.bridge said:
@ gneil
My textbook does not analyze it as a definite integral, but it certainly makes sense to do it in that way. Just a few things, when analyzing differential circuits in this way, if the capacitor had an initial charge one would have the initial charge as the lower limit, with the charge on the voltage source being the upper?

Sure. That would work.
 

1. What is a first order response in an RC circuit?

A first order response in an RC circuit is a type of transient response that occurs when a step input signal is applied to the circuit. It describes how the output voltage or current changes over time in response to the input signal.

2. How is the time constant of an RC circuit calculated?

The time constant of an RC circuit is calculated by multiplying the resistance (R) and capacitance (C) values together. It represents the time it takes for the circuit to reach 63.2% of its final value.

3. What is the significance of the time constant in an RC circuit?

The time constant in an RC circuit is important because it determines the rate at which the circuit responds to changes in the input signal. A shorter time constant means a faster response, while a longer time constant means a slower response.

4. How does the value of the resistance affect the first order response in an RC circuit?

The value of the resistance affects the first order response in an RC circuit by determining the shape and amplitude of the response curve. A higher resistance will result in a slower and lower amplitude response, while a lower resistance will result in a faster and higher amplitude response.

5. How does a capacitor contribute to the first order response in an RC circuit?

A capacitor contributes to the first order response in an RC circuit by storing and releasing electrical energy. When a step input signal is applied, the capacitor charges or discharges, causing a transient response in the circuit. The value of the capacitance also affects the time constant of the circuit and therefore, the overall response.

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