Possible misconceptions about Affirmative Action

Dembadon

I didn't claim to be unaware of the point system; I asked how common it was.

If you wanted an honest argument, the least you could've done is avoided calling me ignorant for providing information I was specifically asked to provide. Did you read the posts in the thread before writing your response, or did you just skim them? My "one specific" example was given in response to a request to provide an example of an approved AA program that doesn't discriminate.

Somewhere I must've given the impression that I'm unwilling to change my views about AA. This is not the case; I'm open to learning more about it's faults and appreciate those who've provided evidence about its potential dangers when implemented incorrectly. Evo and Russ have provided cases showing cause for legitimate concern about how AA is implemented, but I don't believe a handful of cases is very convincing when one considers how many discrimination complaints are handled by the EEOC each year. If you believe issues due to AA are rampant, then show me. If the issues are not rampant, then do we really need to scrap it? If a few cases pop up here and there, that's what our justice system is for.

Skrew

Not quite, Ashkenazi jews can be considered a genetically distinct group, at least according to wiki.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

Their evolution was looked at in a book I read called "The 10,000 year explosion".

http://www.amazon.com/000-Year-Explo.../dp/0465020429

Their IQ(which is also looked at here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkena...h_intelligence) according to the book is at the top end of all groups tested so it would be no surprise if they dominated Ivy League universities or other intellectual areas, which I think Tosh was referring to(I actually believe I read they do in fact, but I can't find the source off hand).

Evo

They're not a different race. Let's stick to facts. And Tosh's rant was off topic to the thread.

Einstein Mcfly

This is very much on point as I see it, as however you decided to explain the grouping, they definitely have a distinct culture that prizes academic achievement, family stability etc and this, not race, seems to me to be the key to their (or any other groups') success.

Evo

Which is completely off topic for this thread. This is about Affirmative Action. Not about how cultures regard academic achievement.

This thread is done as it seems to have gone permanently off topic.