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Aug22-12, 06:03 AM   #18
 

How To Distinguish Between Credible Authors?


Quote by Ascendant78 View Post
Thanks again for all the information. You've given me a nice little list to start with here, as well as what to expect from many of them. I deeply appreciate the help.

One of the reasons I decided to ask on these forums about authors is because one of the books I found interesting in Barnes & Noble was "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. However, after looking into him on the net, reviews about him seemed mixed. Some seemed to love the material, however some claimed it was too anecdotal and lacked supporting evidence.

Though I would love to read things that expand beyond what can be proven, I feel that at this time I need to be studying what has been proven to be right, or at least what studies seem to be proving right. That way, I can make more educated decisions on what material I do and do not want to accept that may or may not be accurate. Hopefully that makes more sense of where my original concerns were coming from.
If you are interested in how the holographic stuff works physically you should get something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Basics-Hologra.../dp/0521002001
 
Aug22-12, 06:56 AM   #19
 
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I wonder if a quality to look for is that of an author qualifying their statements and

addressing critiques to their theory; maybe even better, seeing the

author trying to falsify their own theory and seeing the theory come out alive.
 
Aug22-12, 07:01 AM   #20
 
Quote by Ascendant78 View Post
[..] One of the reasons I decided to ask on these forums about authors is because one of the books I found interesting in Barnes & Noble was "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot. However, after looking into him on the net, reviews about him seemed mixed. Some seemed to love the material, however some claimed it was too anecdotal and lacked supporting evidence. [..]I feel that at this time I need to be studying what has been proven to be right, or at least what studies seem to be proving right. [..]
If you read not-so-old (but not so new as to be unknown!) textbooks on physics by well known authors such as Feynman, then you'll have a good basis. However, be aware that non-physics in physics books, such as described history of physics and metaphysical interpretation, are often inaccurate and/or mere opinion (for that you can consult other books by established historians and philosophers!).

As to a quick first opinion of such books as the one you mention, you could copy my very simple approach: I looked at commentaries at Amazon.com, noticed mention of amazing observations concerning MPD and "googled" for those - only to be directed back to that same book. That took me less time than to write this message. At the best those amazing observations are not widely known, at the worst they are exceptions due to chance and/or misreporting. So, if I had already bought the book, I would check out a few of the references to form a more solid opinion, before, perhaps, wasting more of my time on fantasies.
 
Aug22-12, 09:10 AM   #21
 
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Still does not work. As has already been pointed out: there are plenty of examples of modern scientists that have made valuable contributions to their area that have weird -sometimes crankish- ideas about other areas; and sometimes about things in their own area.

This usually -but not always- happens at the later stages of their careers. I can think of plenty of historical examples, but I can also think of a few now living Nobel prize winning scientists that now are proponents of really weird (and often demonstrable wrong) ideas (look up Luc Montagnier, and he is still very much active).
I can imagine how that could be possible. Can you please provide a list of active physicists that fall in this category? I am curious to learn more about such cases.
 
Aug22-12, 10:07 AM   #22
 
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Can you please provide a list of active physicists that fall in this category? I am curious to learn more about such cases.
No, not in public forum. If you want historical examples I could name Heisenberg and to some extent Einstein as two examples. Tesla would be an even more extreme example, although he wasn't a physicist.
If you want an example of a now active physicist who supports an extremely controversial (i.e. no supporting evidence) theory I could name Penrose and his "quantum brain".
 
Aug22-12, 10:07 AM   #23
 
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I can imagine how that could be possible. Can you please provide a list of active physicists that fall in this category? I am curious to learn more about such cases.
Publicly claiming that physicist so-and-so is a crank, and even making a crank list, is BAD behaviour which can result in prosecution (and rightly so!). - http://www.netslander.com/
However, we cannot do harm to dead people. A case you could start with is Dingle, who was a physics professor.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Dingle

To get back to the discussion, we should distinguish between credible/less credible books - authors are not equally good on all topics and they can change as well.
 
Aug23-12, 04:46 AM   #24
 
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I can imagine how that could be possible. Can you please provide a list of active physicists that fall in this category? I am curious to learn more about such cases.
I'd rather not for several reasons:

1) There are a lot of nice, pleasant cranks. One of the professors that I know that has crankish views has a good sense of humor about them, so I don't see any point in embarassing him.

2) They may have changed their minds.

3) They may be *right*. You need a little craziness to do theoretical physics, and one thing that I've noticed is that people that are cranks in one field but brilliant in another are doing exactly the same thing in both fields. In one field, they go against conventional wisdom, are incredibly obsessed over an idea, and then lightning strikes to prove them right. In another field, it doesn't happen.

Also sometimes they might convince you. There was one famous professor that I thought had totally gone off the deep end the first them he mentioned the anthropic principle. However, over time, he's convinced me that it's not a totally crazy idea, so I'd no longer put that idea in the "crank" category.
 
Aug23-12, 04:16 PM   #25
 
Well, thanks again for all the information. Based on all the feedback, I think my best bet at this point is to stick with the handful of best known authors for now, at least until I start to get more of a foundation in the history and accepted truths of physics. Once I have that foundation and can more effectively interpret what I am reading, then I would love to branch out to the more profound theories. I mean after all, though I know some of them may seem very out there, I have no doubt some might at least have portions of it right.
 
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