Rate of flow - height of water problem

In summary, the conversation is about a problem given for a class that involves differential equations and a vessel with a constant cross sectional area. The person is unsure if the differential equation should include the cross sectional area and is seeking clarification. The expert responds by explaining that the cross sectional area should not be included because it is constant, and provides the correct equation to solve the problem. The expert also mentions that the flow and height variables need to be included and can be constant or vary with time.
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Ok so I've been given this problem for one of my classes (see attatchment) :

I haven't done much with differential equations before and I'm a bit stuck. What has been putting me off is the fact that it says the vessel has a constant cross sectional area A. which I am guessing is the grey shaded area.

I don't understand how whether the differential equation is meant to include this A term. Surely it can't be constant if the height of the water varies?

Any help would be greatly appreaciated.
 

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You have two of the dimensions in volume accounted for, by the constant cross sectional area. The grey shaded area is the liquid. The cross sectional area represents the 2 dimensions of the cylinder aside from the height which is changing. Don't be fooled.

You shouldn't have to include the cross sectional area because the question asks for a function of height. Now, if the cross-sectional area was not constant, you would have to include a derivative of that as well.
 
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ah thank you, well in that case would it be something like:

[tex]\frac{dq}{dt}[/tex] = A [tex]\frac{dh}{dt}[/tex]
 
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No, you shouldn't include A, because it's a constant. The question concerns only changing quantities that affect that specific variable h. h isn't going to be changed with respect to A because there is no change in A, i.e. dA/dT = 0.

In this case, there is obviously only one change, a linear increase in h(t) coming from q(t).
 
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ineedmunchies said:
ah thank you, well in that case would it be something like:

[tex]\frac{dq}{dt}[/tex] = A [tex]\frac{dh}{dt}[/tex]

ineedmunchies, you were almost correct in the equation, but made an error which you could avoid if you had checked the units. You have for the flow entering the vessel q expressed in m^3/s and the cross-sectional area A in m^2, therefore you have for the change in height:

[tex]\frac{dh(t)}{dt}=\frac{q(t)}{A}[/tex]

This is the differential equation you need to solve. Remember you need the flow q(t) as a function. It can be a constant, but that was not given in the original post, as wasn't the height h(t) at a certain time t. These things will make it completely solvable. It is a basic equation, but in case you have any problems, post them.
 

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