Pressure Tube Response Time

In summary, a high-frequency response pressure transducer will be used to measure static pressure pulsations in a duct of flowing air. The transducer has no appreciable volume and will be cooled over more than half its length. The Helmholtz resonator natural frequencies and wave equation can be used to determine the frequency response of the measurement system. If the volume of the tube is reduced to about half of the resonator chamber, the wave equation form can be used. However, in this case, where there is no appreciable resonator chamber, the system can be analyzed as an organ pipe. Digital notch filtering can also be used to eliminate natural frequency content in the data.
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Ron D
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A high-frequency response pressure transducer at one end of a 7 inch long (approx. 0.6 inch ID) tube will be used to measure static pressure pulsations in a duct of flowing air. Interest is for air at 70 F and at 460 F. The transducer end of the measurement tube has no appreciable volume. What is the frequency response of the measurement system? In other words, what is the highest duct frequency that can be measured with reasonable engineering accuracy?

Are there references that outline the relevant acoustics theory?

Thanks. ...Ron
 
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If you can wing it, it is always best to flush mount dynamic pressure transducers to the flowpath. However, if that is not possible, you will want to shorten the interface tube as much as possible. The Helmholtz resonator natural frequencies can be calculated from

[tex]f_n=\frac{c}{4 \pi} \left[\frac{\pi d^2}{V(L+.85d)} \right]^{.5}}[/tex]

where
V= volume under sensing diaphragm
c = speed of sound
d = diameter of the tube
L = length of tube

If the volume of the tube can be reduced to about half of that of the resonator chamber, then the wave equation form can be used which is a bit simpler:

[tex]f_n = \frac{(2n-1)c}{4L}[/tex]
 
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First, a correction: The tube ID is about 0.06 inch, not 0.6 inch.

Comments to FredGarvin's response:

(1) Cannot flush mount x-ducer. Need to keep transducer away from 460 F air stream in the final test run, the real objective of test. The tube will be cooled over more than half its length to eliminate conduction as well as to cool the air column within.

(2) There is no appreciable resonator chamber. Transducer end of tube terminates in a free space of about 0.25" diameter by 0.008-0.010 inches from transducer diaphragm. Therefore Helmholtz freq. calculation is not appropriate.

It seems to me that this measurement tube system is more of an organ pipe (one end closed) analysis. If so, the natural frequency can be determined by calculation or recognized in the data. We should be able to "trust" pressure variation data (i.e., profile stucture) corresponding to frequencies below and above the region of that natural frequency, and perhaps even do some digital "notch filtering" to eliminate natural frequency content (please confirm). Am I expecting too much in this approach?
 

What is Pressure Tube Response Time?

Pressure Tube Response Time is the amount of time it takes for a pressure tube to respond to a change in pressure. This can vary depending on factors such as the material of the tube, its length, and the type of fluid being used.

Why is Pressure Tube Response Time important?

Pressure Tube Response Time is important because it affects the accuracy and reliability of pressure measurements. A slow response time can lead to delayed readings and potential errors in data analysis.

What factors affect Pressure Tube Response Time?

The material of the tube, its length, and the type of fluid being used are all factors that can affect Pressure Tube Response Time. Additionally, the diameter and thickness of the tube, as well as the temperature and pressure of the fluid, can also impact response time.

How can Pressure Tube Response Time be improved?

Pressure Tube Response Time can be improved by using materials that have a high thermal conductivity, such as metals, and by minimizing the length and diameter of the tube. Additionally, using a fluid with a high thermal conductivity can also help improve response time.

What are some common methods for measuring Pressure Tube Response Time?

Some common methods for measuring Pressure Tube Response Time include using a pressure gauge and a stopwatch to record the time it takes for the pressure to change, or using specialized equipment such as a pressure transducer and data logger to capture and analyze the response time.

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