Does the expanding Universe have a knowable center?

In summary: Therefore, the center cannot be defined, as there is no agreed upon definition.In summary, the center of the universe is a meaningless concept.
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Since the speed of light is a constant, no matter what location from which a search of the universe is made, matter would appear to be accelerating in the expansion in the same way to the observer. It is understood that about 14 billion years ago the expansion started. From any vantage point, the universe would appear to have started the 14 billion years ago, and the size of the universe would appear to be the same. If the universe is appears expanding in the same way from any point in the universe, the center of the universe than is unknowable.
 
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It is unknowable and most likely doesn't exist. Not everything has a center and the Universe probably doesn't.
 
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probably you cannot define a center, because there was never such a thing as a "center"...
 
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gymjim said:
Since the speed of light is a constant, no matter what location from which a search of the universe is made, matter would appear to be accelerating in the expansion in the same way to the observer.

The latter part is true, but it's not because the speed of light is constant; it's because the universe happens to be expanding in that particular way. It's perfectly possible to come up with other valid solutions to the Einstein Field Equations with different expansion properties, and the speed of light will still be constant in all those solutions.

gymjim said:
It is understood that about 14 billion years ago the expansion started. From any vantage point, the universe would appear to have started the 14 billion years ago, and the size of the universe would appear to be the same.

True. (More precisely, it's true for "comoving" observers, observers who see the universe as homogeneous and isotropic. We here on Earth are not exactly "comoving" observers, but we're close enough to it for most purposes. But, for example, someone flying by Earth at nearly the speed of light would see the universe as highly non-isotropic, and would *not* assign the same age or size to the universe as we do.)

gymjim said:
If the universe is appears expanding in the same way from any point in the universe, the center of the universe than is unknowable.

No; the "center of the universe" is a meaningless concept, not unknowable.
 
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We have a FAQ on this: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=506991
 
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There is a center of the universe per Sydney Coleman's "egocentric coordinate systems". Each sufficiently egocentric researcher defines themselves as the center of the universe.
 

1. What evidence do we have for the expanding Universe?

Scientists have observed that galaxies are moving away from each other, which suggests that the Universe is expanding. This is supported by the redshift of light from distant galaxies, which indicates that they are moving away from us at increasing speeds.

2. Is there a center point from which the Universe is expanding?

No, there is no known center point from which the Universe is expanding. The expansion is happening equally in all directions, and there is no preferred point that can be identified as the center.

3. Can we determine the size of the Universe?

The size of the Universe is currently unknown and may be infinite. Due to the expansion of the Universe, the observable Universe is limited to a certain distance from Earth, but beyond that, the size of the Universe is uncertain.

4. How do we measure the expansion of the Universe?

Scientists use various methods to measure the expansion of the Universe, including the redshift of light from distant galaxies, the cosmic microwave background radiation, and the distance and brightness of type Ia supernovae.

5. Could the expansion of the Universe eventually slow down or reverse?

The current understanding is that the expansion of the Universe will continue to accelerate, rather than slow down or reverse. This is due to the presence of dark energy, a mysterious force that is thought to be responsible for the expansion of the Universe.

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