Blocks, pulleys, more friction woes

In summary, the tension in the string creates a force that tries to accelerate the 100N block up the incline, while the friction force tries to slow it down.
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Homework Statement



Body A weighs 100 N, and body B weighs 35 N. The coefficients of friction between A and the incline are μs = 0.56 and μk = 0.25. Angle θ is 40°. Let the positive direction of an x-axis be up the incline.

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Find acceleration along x.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Force of smaller block is just is weight, since it's just freely hanging.

Force of larger block is lessened because it is on an incline and due to friction. This means it will be pulled up the incline?

35 - u100cos40 = ma
15.85 = ma
6.3096 = a

Is my head on right?
 
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1MileCrash said:

Homework Statement



Body A weighs 100 N, and body B weighs 35 N. The coefficients of friction between A and the incline are μs = 0.56 and μk = 0.25. Angle θ is 40°. Let the positive direction of an x-axis be up the incline.

06_38.gif


Find acceleration along x.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Force of smaller block is just is weight, since it's just freely hanging.

Force of larger block is lessened because it is on an incline and due to friction. This means it will be pulled up the incline?

35 - u100cos40 = ma
15.85 = ma
6.3096 = a

Is my head on right?

Firstly, the small block also has the string pulling up; it is not just the weight force that acts on it.

Which value did you use for μ ?

You should use μs at first, to check that the 35N weight is sufficient to start the large block at all - and don't forget the component of the 100N block's weight acting down the slope! If not enough force to get things moving, the acceleration will be zero.
Be sure to consider the possibility tat the block might slide down the slope

If, however, the force is strong enough to get things moving, you then use μk to calculate the net force on the masses as they accelerate.

It looks like they are assuming g = 10, so the masses are 10kg and 3.5kg giving a total of 13.5 kg
 
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I'm a bit confused about the force of the string. How do I find what the string is doing if it depends on the force exerted on both blocks, which depends on the force of the string?
 
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1MileCrash said:
I'm a bit confused about the force of the string. How do I find what the string is doing if it depends on the force exerted on both blocks, which depends on the force of the string?

If you consider the two blocks and the string as a single system, then the tension in the string is an internal force so is not involved in the global calculation.
Newtons Laws refer to unbalanced external forces causing motion.
 
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1MileCrash said:
I'm a bit confused about the force of the string. How do I find what the string is doing if it depends on the force exerted on both blocks, which depends on the force of the string?

Follow-up answer to previous post: read in conjunction
If the table was smooth, and horizontal, the only force acting in the direction the system might move is the weight of 35N
Given the mass of the system is 135/g , we can establish the resulting acceleration.
If we analyse the system, the tension in the string is all that accelerates the "100N" mass so we can use F = ma to find the size of tension.

In this problem, the table is not flat, so in addition to the 35N weight force trying to accelerate the system, there is a component of the 100N weight force trtying to get things going in the other direction. Which one wins??
Also there is the friction Force trying to stop - or at least slow down, the movement.

Another hint:
We know that the components of the 100N along the slope [trying to cause motion] and perpendicular to the slope [to be joined with the co-efficient of friction to give the maximum frictional force] are 100sin40 and 100cos40; but which one is which.

Well if the angle was much smaller, the Force along the slope would be practically zero. is it 100sin(x) or 100cos(x) that is almost zero when x is very small - that way you can show yourself which one is correct rather than trying to remember which one is correct.
 
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1. What are blocks and pulleys used for?

Blocks and pulleys are simple machines that are used to make lifting and moving heavy objects easier. They work by distributing the weight of the object over multiple ropes or strings, which reduces the amount of force needed to lift the object.

2. How do blocks and pulleys work?

Blocks and pulleys work by using the principle of mechanical advantage. This means that they reduce the amount of force needed to lift an object by spreading the load over multiple ropes or strings. The more pulleys used, the greater the mechanical advantage.

3. What is friction and how does it affect blocks and pulleys?

Friction is a force that resists the motion of two objects rubbing against each other. In the case of blocks and pulleys, friction can affect their efficiency by creating resistance and making it harder for the ropes or strings to move smoothly. This can result in a loss of mechanical advantage.

4. How can friction be reduced in blocks and pulleys?

Friction can be reduced in blocks and pulleys by using materials that have a low coefficient of friction, such as lubricated surfaces or materials like Teflon. Additionally, ensuring that the ropes or strings are straight and properly aligned can also help reduce friction.

5. Are there any other factors that can affect the efficiency of blocks and pulleys?

Yes, other factors such as the weight of the object, the angle of the ropes or strings, and the condition of the pulleys can also affect the efficiency of blocks and pulleys. It is important to properly maintain and adjust these factors in order to achieve maximum efficiency.

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