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daveb said:I know it's a knee-jerk reaction, but Romney sometimes reminds me of a used car salesman who's trying to sell me my own car.
The format you used for posting the video was incorrect. You can see the correct format by replying to this post (ie., hitting the "quote" button).grendle7 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS9SF3vc-A
ThomasT said:Anyway, yeah, imho, Romney is the Mittbot, the Ken doll, the wedding cake figurine, the used car salesman. Extremely good looking. He probably could have made a good living in soap operas, but a lot less money.
Don't know. But I wouldn't doubt it. Apparently, women are somewhat attracted to vacuous, but extremely good looking, male model types of guys who also have about $200M. I can't say that I would be any different if I were a woman.WhoWee said:Romney won the female vote in MI - didn't he?
ThomasT said:Don't know. But I wouldn't doubt it. Apparently, women are somewhat attracted to vacuous, but extremely good looking, male model types of guys who also have about $200M. I can't say that I would be any different if I were a woman.
Or, you could be right. This is a scary election. But then, aren't they all?WhoWee said:If that were true, I'd expect Romney to be polling about 67%. If anything, I think women are generally more attentive to details and look at the whole package - rather than only the rhetoric or positions - I could be wrong?
Good point, imho.Char. Limit said:I think that deciding that one arbitrary group of people is inherently better or worse at making decisions than another arbitrary, but mutually exclusive, group of people is a blanket statement that should be avoided if at all possible.
ThomasT said:Good point, imho.
Back to Romney. My current opinion (it changes a lot, wrt lots of things): I really don't think he would, or could, do any real harm, and he might even get lucky and do something really good (ie., that precipitates some sort of major improvement in America). I think that Romney and Obama are the only candidates worthy of serious consideration. I make fun of Romney, but the bottom line is that he really does have his **** together. I very much doubt that he would make any sort of serious mistake. He's a business as usual guy. Prima facie, he would be an acceptable president. I might actually vote for him ... if I happen to be in experimental mode on election day.
ThomasT said:He's a business as usual guy.
"The maxim of the British people is 'Business as usual'." - Winston Churchill, speaking at Guildhall, 9 November 1914.
It depends, I think. For example, the Bush administration wasn't just BAU. It seems that it was extreme, to a fault, and that we'll be paying for it in one way or another, or many ways, for a long time.apeiron said:Do presidents get any choice?
ThomasT said:I don't see Romney as an extremist. So, it's, imho, a coin toss between him and Obama at this time.
Do you believe that your criteria for why he would be a better choice would also apply to Americans?Hobin said:He may not be an extremist, but the people I know in my country definitely like him less than Obama (especially because of Romney's American exceptionalism). I don't know how it is elsewhere, of course, but diplomatically speaking, Obama would - in my opinion - be a better choice.
russ_watters said:Do you believe that your criteria for why he would be a better choice would also apply to Americans?
Hobin said:That depends. Do these Americans care about how the rest of the world sees them? If they do, and I'm right (which is obviously debatable, considering I can only speak for myself and the people I've talked to), and Romney and Obama would be equally good/bad for America on all other points, then yes.
russ_watters said:Do you believe that your criteria for why he would be a better choice would also apply to Americans?
lisab said:They did in the last election, apparently.
Perhaps she was referring to the last Presidential election.WhoWee said:Romney wasn't a candidate in the last general election.
Jimmy Snyder said:Perhaps she was referring to the last Presidential election.
He wasn't the nominee. He was a candidate.WhoWee said:Romney wasn't on the ballot - (McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden).
Do you think it important to poll the American viewpoint when assessing PM Rutte? Or, say, UK or French or Russian opinion?...Do these Americans care about how the rest of the world sees them? ..
mheslep said:Do you think it important to poll the American viewpoint when assessing PM Rutte?
mheslep said:The conservative base may be demanding too much of Romney the candidate for purposes of accomplishing their goals (which I share). It may be that all that is required is a non-obstructionist president, and the popular, respected innovators in Congress (e.g. Rep Ryan) can do the rest. That line of thinking depends on getting the gavel out of Harry Reid's hand in the Senate, but then that is probably a requirement of success in any scenario.
Me too. Or Mitch Daniels. Or Marco Rubio. Woulda coulda. My point above is I may be able to get Ryan's works with a Romney presidency.Oltz said:I think I would vote for Rep Ryan if he ran...maybe next time, but I would prefer now.
Hobin said:He may not be an extremist, but the people I know in my country definitely like him less than Obama (especially because of Romney's American exceptionalism). I don't know how it is elsewhere, of course, but diplomatically speaking, Obama would - in my opinion - be a better choice.
russ_watters said:Do you believe that your criteria for why he would be a better choice would also apply to Americans?
lisab said:They did in the last election, apparently.
WhoWee said:Romney wasn't a candidate in the last general election.
WhoWee said:I would think the world's view of Romney would be favorable - given his success with the Olympics?
mheslep said:Do you think it important to poll the American viewpoint when assessing PM Rutte? Or, say, UK or French or Russian opinion?
mheslep said:It still surprises me how frequently posts are a made on behalf of the thoughts of the entire world.
Actually I am saying what I said.apeiron said:Are you saying ...