Question about second order differential equation

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of finding a solution for the equation y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0, where the graph of one solution must be tangent to the x-axis in a certain interval. The conversation then goes on to discuss using the general expression for the solution and considering y'=0, but ultimately concludes that the uniqueness theorem for the initial value problem proves that the solution must be identically zero.
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Telemachus
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I have this problem, which says: If the graph of one solution for the equation [tex]y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0[/tex] is tangent to the x-axis in some point of an interval [a,b], then that solution must be identically zero. Why?

I've tried to do something with the general expression for the solution.

[tex]y(x)=Ay_1(x)+By_1(x)\int \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1^2(x)}dx \Rightarrow y'(x)=Ay_1'(x)+By_1'(x)\int \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1^2(x)}dx +By_1(x)\displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1^2(x)}[/tex]

So I've considered y'(x)=0, because y(x) must be tangent to the x axis.
[tex]0=Ay_1'(x)+By_1'(x)\int \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1^2(x)}dx +B \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1(x)}\Rightarrow y_1'\left( A+B \int \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1^2(x)}dx \right) =-B \displaystyle \frac{e^{\int -P(x)dx}}{y_1(x)} [/tex]

So, I don't know what to do next. I think this is not the right way.Damn, I think I got it.
y(x_0)=0, it touches the x axis
y'(x_0)=0

Thats all?
 
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Telemachus said:
Damn, I think I got it.
y(x_0)=0, it touches the x axis
y'(x_0)=0

Thats all?

Yes. By the uniqueness theorem for the initial value problem. Both y identically 0 and your supposed solution satisfy that IVP so they are the same.
 

What is a second order differential equation?

A second order differential equation is a mathematical equation that involves a second derivative of an unknown function. It is typically used to model physical phenomena such as motion, heat transfer, and electrical circuits.

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