Calculating Error of w from Errors in x,y,z

In summary, to calculate the error in a physical quantity w that is related to other quantities (x,y,z) by a function f, the standard method is to use the equation \Delta w=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\Delta x+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\Delta y+\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\Delta z. Another commonly used method is the "pythagoras" approach for independent errors, where \Delta w^2=(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x})^2 \Delta x^2+(\frac{\partial f}{\partial y})^2 \Delta y^2+(\frac{\partial f}{\partial z})^2 \Delta z^
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Consider a physical quantity e.g. w,related to some other quantities by [itex] w=f(x,y,z) [/itex].
Imagine an experiment is done for finding the value of w and the measurement errors for x,y and z are known.
I want to know what is the standard method for calculating the error in w resulting from the errors in x,y and z?
I can think of several ways but don't know which is better!
1-[itex] \Delta w=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\Delta x+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\Delta y+\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\Delta z[/itex]
2-[itex]\Delta w^2=(\frac{\partial f}{\partial x})^2 \Delta x^2+(\frac{\partial f}{\partial y})^2 \Delta y^2+(\frac{\partial f}{\partial z})^2 \Delta z^2 [/itex]
and some others...!

Thanks
 
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The "pythagoras" approach is where x,y,z are independent.
 
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2 is the standard for independent errors.
 
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Why not have a look at the GUM?

http://www.bipm.org/en/publications/guides/gum.html

It is surprisingly readable with quite a few examples. It is also (litteraly) the standard which just about everyone ultimately follows (albeit not always directly), i.e. as long as you folllow the GUM you are pretty safe.
 
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Maybe the GUM should be made sticky?
 
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GUM is just too long and detailed that you don't know where is the main point!
I couldn't find my answer there!
 
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Shyan said:
GUM is just too long and detailed that you don't know where is the main point!
I couldn't find my answer there!

Well, you did ask a very open ended question. Calculating errors "properly" is far from trivial and in some cases the "best way" is a controversial question (just put some people who like Bayesian error estimates in the same room as adherents of "orthodox" frequentist estimates).
Where I work we have a mathematical modelling group which (litteraly) specialises in just this. The GUM is the "basic" document which everyone who needs to do this professionally (e.g. because they do calibration work, quality control or have to certfy equipment) is expected to know.

The most general way of calculating errors (which is frequently used for real data) is to run Monte Carlo simulations, where you've assigned the proper distibution (which usually is the worst case scenario, unless you have very good reason to e.g. assume that the distribution is narrower than this). There is also specialised software you can get that will help you do this.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating the error of w from errors in x, y, and z?

The formula for calculating the error of w from errors in x, y, and z is:
Δw = √(Δx² + Δy² + Δz²)
Where Δx, Δy, and Δz are the errors in the measurements of x, y, and z, respectively.

2. How is the error of w affected by errors in x, y, and z?

The error of w is affected by the errors in x, y, and z in a cumulative manner. This means that the total error of w is equal to the square root of the sum of the squared errors in x, y, and z. Therefore, the larger the errors in the individual measurements, the larger the error of w will be.

3. Is it possible for the error of w to be smaller than the errors in x, y, and z?

No, it is not possible for the error of w to be smaller than the errors in x, y, and z. The error of w is always equal to or greater than the individual errors in x, y, and z. This is because the error of w takes into account all the sources of error in the measurements, while the individual errors only represent the error in one specific measurement.

4. Can the error of w be negative?

No, the error of w cannot be negative. The error of w is a measure of the uncertainty in the calculated value, and it is always expressed as a positive value. A negative error would imply that the calculated value is more accurate than the actual value, which is not possible.

5. How can I minimize the error of w in my calculations?

The error of w can be minimized by reducing the errors in the measurements of x, y, and z. This can be done by using more precise instruments, taking multiple measurements and averaging them, and minimizing any sources of error in the experimental setup. It is also important to use appropriate mathematical techniques to minimize the propagation of errors in the calculations.

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