Conservation of four momentum question

In summary, the conservation of four momentum in the centre of momentum frame forbids a reaction in which an electron and positron annihilate and produce a single photon. However, the production of two photons is not forbidden. Working in the centre of momentum frame shows that the production of two photons is necessary for momentum conservation. Additionally, inelastic collisions only apply to macroscopic objects, while all collisions involving particles are elastic due to the conservation of energy. Therefore, in special relativity, all collisions are considered elastic.
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The question goes like this: Prove that conservation of four momentum forbids a reaction in which an electron and positron annihilate and produce a single photon(gamma ray). Prove that the production of two photons is not forbidden.
The solution is to work in the centre of momentum frame. I understand that, the electron and positron will travel in opposite directions in this frame since they both have the same mass, and the annihilation will conserve momentum by sending out even numbered photons, each pair in opposite directions of the same frequency.
My question is, why can't we not work in the centre of momentum frame. In the frame of the positron, the total momentum before collision is not zero, but after collision, if only one photon is produced with the same momentum as the sum of the four momenta of the electron and positron, things will still look good.
If two photons of the same frequency are emitted as seen in the C.M. frame, for an observer traveling in the MCRF of the positron traveling from right to left, the left going photon will be redshifted and the right going photon will be blueshifted. The resultant of this momentum has to be equivalent to the resultant momentum before collision.
 
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if only one photon is produced with the same momentum as the sum of the four momenta of the electron and positron, things will still look good.
Why don't you try an example calculation? Remember, the norm of the photon four momentum ist zero.
 
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Conservation of the zeroth component means conservation of energy. Does this mean all collisions in SR are elastic collisions?
 
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vin300 said:
Conservation of the zeroth component means conservation of energy. Does this mean all collisions in SR are elastic collisions?

Elastic vs inelastic collisions apply for macroscopic objects. If you are dealing with particles, all collisions are elastic because you keep track all the energy.

A macroscopic collision might be inelastic because some energy goes into deforming the material, or sound, or light, but if you are dealing with individual particles, the energy has nowhere else to go.
 

1. What is the conservation of four momentum?

The conservation of four momentum is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the total four momentum of a closed system remains constant over time, regardless of any internal changes or interactions within the system. This means that the total energy and momentum of a system must remain constant, even if they are redistributed among the individual components of the system.

2. Why is conservation of four momentum important?

The conservation of four momentum is important because it is a fundamental law of nature that applies to all physical systems, from subatomic particles to entire galaxies. It allows us to make predictions about the behavior of systems and to understand the underlying symmetries and laws of the universe.

3. How is conservation of four momentum related to the conservation of energy and momentum?

The conservation of four momentum is closely related to the conservation of energy and momentum. In fact, it is an extension of these principles to include the effects of special relativity. While the conservation of energy and momentum only applies to systems in which velocities are much smaller than the speed of light, the conservation of four momentum is a more general principle that applies to all systems, regardless of their velocities.

4. Can the conservation of four momentum be violated?

No, the conservation of four momentum is a fundamental law of nature that has been extensively tested and verified through experiments. It is a consequence of the underlying symmetries of the laws of physics and is considered to be a universal principle that cannot be violated.

5. How is the conservation of four momentum applied in practical situations?

The conservation of four momentum is applied in many practical situations, including particle collisions, nuclear reactions, and astrophysical phenomena. It is also used in the development of technologies such as particle accelerators and nuclear reactors. In addition, the conservation of four momentum is essential in the field of cosmology, as it allows us to understand the behavior and evolution of the universe on a grand scale.

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