Reference frame in relative motion

In summary, the concept of classical mechanics discussed in the book explains the relation between two frames of reference, F1 and F2, observing a particle P in motion. The velocity of the particle relative to F1 can be found by differentiating its position vector, r1, with respect to time. The velocity of F2 relative to F can be represented as V, while the velocity of the particle relative to F1 can be represented as (dr2/dt)F1. However, it is not valid to assume that the velocity of the particle relative to F1 is equal to the velocity of the particle relative to F2.
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I red a classical mechanics concept in a book. Imagine that we have two observers with two frames of reference F1 and F2 observing a particle P in motion. One of the observer is in motion and another is at rest,(lets take F1 is at rest and F2 is in translation motion with velocity V) let r1 be the position vector of particle with relative to frame of reference F1 and r2 be the position vector of particle with relative to frame of reference r2, the relation between r1 and r2 be r1-D=r2 ( D be the postion vector of F2 relative to F1), to find it velocity at any time t we differentiate r1 with respect to 't', we get v=V+(dr2/dt)F1 where v is the velocity of the particle relative to the frame of reference F1, V is the velocity of the F2 relative to F in straight line, (dr2/dt)F1 is the velocity of the particle relative to F1, How? in the book it is also taken that velocity of particle relative to F1 is taken equal to velocity of particle relative to F2 and said velocity of the particle is equal to the sum of velocity of particle relative to F2 and velocity of frame F2, How can we assume the velocity of particle relative to F1 is taken equal to velocity of particle relative to F2?
 
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manimaran1605 said:
I red a classical mechanics concept in a book.
Which book - citations are important.

Imagine that we have two observers with two frames of reference F1 and F2 observing a particle P in motion.
Is this particle in motion with respect to both F1 and F2?

One of the observer is in motion and another is at rest, (lets take F1 is at rest and F2 is in translation motion with velocity V) let r1 be the position vector of particle with relative to frame of reference F1 and r2 be the position vector of particle with relative to frame of reference r2, the relation between r1 and r2 be r1-D=r2 ( D be the postion vector of F2 relative to F1),
... when D=0, the origin's coincide.

to find it velocity at any time t we differentiate r1 with respect to 't', we get v=V+(dr2/dt)F1 where v is the velocity of the particle relative to the frame of reference F1,
What is F1 "stationary" with respect to then?
I have a feeling this is the crux of the matter for you.

V is the velocity of the F2 relative to F in straight line, (dr2/dt)F1 is the velocity of the particle relative to F1,
If r1 is the displacement of the particle in F1, then v=dr1/dt would be the velocity of the particle in F1. dr2/dt would be the velocity of the particle in F2. The notation "(dr2/dt)F1" needs to be clarified.

How? in the book it is also taken that velocity of particle relative to F1 is taken equal to velocity of particle relative to F2 and said velocity of the particle is equal to the sum of velocity of particle relative to F2 and velocity of frame F2, How can we assume the velocity of particle relative to F1 is taken equal to velocity of particle relative to F2?
You can't. Either the book is talking rubbish or you have misunderstood something.
 
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1. What is a reference frame?

A reference frame is a coordinate system used to measure the position and motion of objects. It is a set of axes and a clock that provide a consistent and standard way to describe the position and movement of objects in space.

2. What is relative motion?

Relative motion refers to the motion of an object in relation to another object or reference frame. It is the change in position or orientation of an object with respect to a reference frame.

3. How do you determine the relative velocity between two objects in different reference frames?

To determine the relative velocity between two objects in different reference frames, you need to calculate the difference in velocity between the two reference frames. This can be done by subtracting the velocity of one reference frame from the other.

4. Can the same object have different velocities in different reference frames?

Yes, the same object can have different velocities in different reference frames. This is because the velocity of an object is always relative to the reference frame it is being measured in.

5. How does the concept of reference frame in relative motion apply to everyday life?

The concept of reference frame in relative motion is used in various aspects of everyday life. For example, when driving a car, you are in a moving reference frame while the objects outside the car are in a stationary reference frame. This difference in reference frames affects how you perceive the motion of other objects on the road.

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