Artificially increased rainfall ?

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In summary: This "lake effect" could overwhelm flood defences which are often built without taking it into account. This could result in increased flooding, which in turn could lead to more damage and casualties.
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"This "lake effect" could overwhelm flood defences which are often built without taking it into account." is the claim.
The reservoir IS the flood defence.
I would like to see how the Law of Conservation of Matter is circumvented here - a reservoir cannot hold enough water that the evaporation could produce enough rain to overfill the reservoir. It is the same thing as running a generator to produce the electricity to power the motor that keeps the generator going.
 
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Perhaps this extract from the article might explain it

Some experts believe that you also get circulating air patterns in the atmosphere above the boundary between the water and the land and this can initiate thunderstorms and showers.

They seem to be suggesting that rainfall that otherwise might not occur is initiated by evaporation from open water, not that this evaporation supplies the precipitation.

However the purpose of posting was to initiate discussion.
 
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Any child who has lived on the plains can tell you that thunderstorms are triggered by updrafts - humid air rising in "thermals", usually over warm dry ground. The circulation develops from the Coriolis forces applied to the updraft by the rotation of the earth. Other children raised in beachfront towns like half of California, where *everything* is along the boundary between water and land, will say "what is a thunderstorm?" Onshore winds are not readily able to form convection columns.
The only weather that concentrates along the beaches and lakeshores are lake effect snows and fogs.
 
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I don't know if the thesis of the article has merit (total or partial) or not.

I'm sorry you are not able to discuss the matter in a rational and scientific manner.

go well
 
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tadchem said:
The only weather that concentrates along the beaches and lakeshores are lake effect snows and fogs.

Umm. That's not true.
 
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Travis_King said:
Umm. That's not true.
There's a lot here that is not true.

tadchem said:
The reservoir IS the flood defence.
That's not true.

The reservoirs behind large dams exist primarily for irrigation and hydropower. The dam and reservoir provide zero defense against flooding from rivers and streams that feed into the reservoir. Defense against these floods includes drainage systems and smaller dams. Building these flood control mechanisms to withstand a rainfall amounts based on historic records might not provide sufficient defense if the large reservoir significantly increases precipitation.
I would like to see how the Law of Conservation of Matter is circumvented here - a reservoir cannot hold enough water that the evaporation could produce enough rain to overfill the reservoir. It is the same thing as running a generator to produce the electricity to power the motor that keeps the generator going.
That's worse than not true. It's a red herring.
tadchem said:
Any child who has lived on the plains can tell you that thunderstorms are triggered by updrafts - humid air rising in "thermals", usually over warm dry ground.
That's not true.

You're talking about an air-mass thunderstorm. That's but one cause of thunderstorms, and these air-mass thunderstorms are the least severe of thunderstorms.
Onshore winds are not readily able to form convection columns.
That's not true.

Tell that to residents of Florida, who regularly have to batten down the hatches against the most extreme kinds of convection currents (hurricanes) and who are hit by lightning more than anywhere else in the US.
So, back on topic: There is a growing amount of evidence that large reservoirs do effect the local climate, particularly Mediterranean, arid, and semi-arid climates.
 

1. How can rainfall be artificially increased?

Rainfall can be artificially increased through a process called cloud seeding, where small particles such as silver iodide or dry ice are released into the atmosphere to encourage the formation of rain droplets.

2. What are the potential benefits of artificially increased rainfall?

The potential benefits of artificially increased rainfall include increased water supply for agriculture, replenishing drought-stricken areas, and mitigating the effects of wildfires.

3. Are there any potential negative consequences of artificially increased rainfall?

There is some concern that artificially increased rainfall may disrupt natural weather patterns and potentially cause unintended consequences, such as flooding or decreased rainfall in other areas.

4. What areas of the world are currently using artificial rainfall techniques?

Cloud seeding and other methods of artificial rainfall are currently being used in various parts of the world, including China, the United States, and the United Arab Emirates.

5. What is the success rate of artificially increased rainfall?

The success rate of artificially increased rainfall can vary depending on the method used and environmental conditions. Some studies have shown an increase in rainfall of up to 20%, while others have found little to no effect.

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