Using root test and ratio test for divergence

In summary, the conversation discusses determining whether the given series converges or diverges using the ratio and root test. The attempt at using the ratio test does not simplify in a way that allows for the use of L'Hospital's rule, while the root test is also complicated by the expression (n-1)/n.
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superdave
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Homework Statement



Does this series converge or diverge?

Series from n=1 to infinity n(-3)^(n+1) / 4^(n-1)



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, I've tried it both ways.

Ratio test:

lim n --> inf. ((n+1)*(-3)^(n+1)/4^n) / (n * (-3)^n / 4^(n-1))

Now, that doesn't appear to simplify in anyway that would make using l'hospital's rule possible to find the limit.

Root test:

lim n --> inf. of -3*n^(1/n) / 4^((n-1)/n)

That bottom part throws me off.
 
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Why does it through you off? What is the limit of (n-1)/n as n goes to infinity?
 
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superdave said:

Homework Statement



Does this series converge or diverge?

Series from n=1 to infinity n(-3)^(n+1) / 4^(n-1)



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, I've tried it both ways.

Ratio test:

lim n --> inf. ((n+1)*(-3)^(n+1)/4^n) / (n * (-3)^n / 4^(n-1))

Now, that doesn't appear to simplify in anyway that would make using l'hospital's rule possible to find the limit.
Seriously? You are aware, are you not, that (-3)^(n+1)/(-3)^n= -3? The (4^n part is just as easy! You should not need L'Hospital's rule.

Root test:

lim n --> inf. of -3*n^(1/n) / 4^((n-1)/n)

That bottom part throws me off.
 

1. What is the root test for divergence?

The root test for divergence is a method used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series. It involves taking the nth root of the absolute value of each term in the series and then taking the limit as n approaches infinity. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges. If the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method should be used.

2. How is the root test used?

The root test is used by taking the nth root of each term in the series and then taking the limit as n approaches infinity. This limit is then compared to 1. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges and if the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method should be used.

3. What is the ratio test for divergence?

The ratio test for divergence is another method used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series. It involves taking the absolute value of the ratio of each term in the series to the next term and then taking the limit as n approaches infinity. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges. If the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method should be used.

4. How is the ratio test used?

The ratio test is used by taking the absolute value of the ratio of each term in the series to the next term and then taking the limit as n approaches infinity. This limit is then compared to 1. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges and if the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method should be used.

5. When should the root test be used and when should the ratio test be used?

The root test should be used when the series contains nth roots or powers, while the ratio test should be used when the series contains factorial or exponential terms. In general, the ratio test is more versatile and can be used in a wider range of situations. Both tests should be used when the series contains both nth roots and factorial terms.

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