Differential equation, quantum physics

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the solution for u(r) in the region r>R as r approaches infinity. The solution is found to be psi(r)=(A/r)e^-alpha*r, and the process involves solving for the differential equation in u(r) and then dividing by r to get the solution for psi(r).
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_Andreas
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Homework Statement



Solve for u(r) in the region r>R (i.e r goes towards infinity). Show that psi(r)=(A/r)e^-alpha*r

Homework Equations



[tex]\frac{\(d^2u(r)}{dr^2}=\alpha^2u(r)[/tex]

[tex]\(u(r)=\psi(r)*r[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\frac{\(d^2u(r)}{dr^2}=\alpha^2u(r)\Longleftrightarrow\frac{\(d^2\psi(r)*r}{dr^2}-\alpha^2\psi(r)*r=0\Longleftrightarrow\frac{\(d^2\psi(r)}{dr^2}+\frac{\(2}{r}\psi(r)-\alpha^2\psi(r)=0\Longrightarrow\mbox{characteristical equation}\Longrightarrow[/tex]

(z^2) + (2/r)z - alpha^2 = 0

which has the roots z = (-1/r) +/- ((1/r^2) + alpha^2 )^(1/2)

This doesn't seem correct. What have I done wrong? (BTW: sorry for not using LATEX everywhere; I didn't have enough time)
 
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Wouldn't it be simpler to just solve for the DE in u(r) first?
 
  • #3
Sides, characteristic equations cannot be used for ODE-s z with variable coefficients.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to just solve for the DE in u(r) first?

Yes, but I cannot see how to get the 1/r term. I only seem to get Ae^-alpha*r (after the boundary condition has been imposed).
 
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dextercioby said:
Sides, characteristic equations cannot be used for ODE-s z with variable coefficients.

This was actually something I was thinking of. Makes sense.
 
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_Andreas said:
I only seem to get Ae^-alpha*r (after the boundary condition has been imposed).
Is this a solution for u(r) or psi(r)?
 
  • #7
Gokul43201 said:
Is this a solution for u(r) or psi(r)?

The former I think. Now I didn't substitute psi(r)*r for u(r) as I did in the OP.
 
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_Andreas said:
Yes, but I cannot see how to get the 1/r term. I only seem to get Ae^-alpha*r (after the boundary condition has been imposed).

That's right. So you found the solution for u(r) with the approprioate boundary conditions. To get psi, just divide u(r) by r! [itex] \psi(r) = \frac{u(r)}{r} [/itex] and you are done.
 
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nrqed said:
That's right. So you found the solution for u(r) with the approprioate boundary conditions. To get psi, just divide u(r) by r! [itex] \psi(r) = \frac{u(r)}{r} [/itex] and you are done.

It's that simple?! I thought I had to somehow include the r term in the derivation (d^2)/dr^2 :blushing: Well, thanks then!
 

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